<div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: left;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj7AI9fzqhUWx6yQBzkl-V8JnY-Ww68vMXYlDFegSrb1B8uvBZX6qd80jzVv9eGuYehJvmE4eghzlE6m0QvXwgn3xhk0z6oDoVL_cRTd0QoeFo5FDFoJ7ne4HJ35VfFhLW667FBl_hyvd_M/s1059/photo+marisa+hoeschele.jpg" style="clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1059" data-original-width="847" height="213" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj7AI9fzqhUWx6yQBzkl-V8JnY-Ww68vMXYlDFegSrb1B8uvBZX6qd80jzVv9eGuYehJvmE4eghzlE6m0QvXwgn3xhk0z6oDoVL_cRTd0QoeFo5FDFoJ7ne4HJ35VfFhLW667FBl_hyvd_M/w170-h213/photo+marisa+hoeschele.jpg" width="170" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Scientist and metal drummer </td></tr></tbody></table>Marisa Hoeschele received an honours B.A. in Psychology with a minor in Philosophy at the University of Guelph, Canada in 2006. After that she completed an M.Sc. and PhD in Psychology with a specialization in Comparative Cognition and Behaviour at the University of Alberta, Canada.</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;"><br /></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;">In 2013 she moved to Vienna as a post-doc and built the budgie lab at the Department of Cognitive Biology at the University of Vienna. In October 2018 she started her own group, known as the “Musicality and Bioacoustics” group, at the Acoustics Research Institute of the Austrian Academy of Sciences. This institute has researchers from many different disciplines all studying problems in acoustics: however the first animal studies were not conducted on site until this year in April when the budgie lab was moved to the institute. Marisa studies how different animals, including humans, perceive and produce sounds. The broader goal is to understand where music and language come from and what other similar capacities might exist in the animal kingdom.</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;"><br /></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;">Marisa is the first guest I've had on who had a pop filter on her mic. That's neither here nor there but it's still a thing.</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;"><br /></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;">We talked, of course, about how Marisa got into the field in the first place, a bit about Austria and, <a href="https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstb.2014.0094">obviously</a> <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-80340-y">about</a> <a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2016.01543/full">her</a> <a href="https://brill.com/view/journals/beh/156/5-8/article-p479_4.xml">work</a>. Her work is interdisciplinary and we talked a bit about how this sort of thing is important not just in animal cognition, but in any field.</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;"><br /></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;"><a href="http://archive.org/download/spit-27/Spit27.mp3">mp3 download</a></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;"><br /></div><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="30" mozallowfullscreen="true" src="https://archive.org/embed/spit-27" webkitallowfullscreen="true" width="500"></iframe>