ABA Law Student Podcast
ABA Law Student Podcast

ABA Law Student Podcast

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Presented by the American Bar Association’s Law Student Division, the ABA Law Student Podcast covers issues that affect law students, law schools, and recent grads. From finals and graduation to the bar exam and finding a job, this show is your trusted resource for the next big step.

Recent Episodes

Exploring the Rise of Abortion Shield Laws in Post-Dobbs America
MAR 17, 2025
Exploring the Rise of Abortion Shield Laws in Post-Dobbs America

When the Supreme Court issued its opinion in Dobbs reversing Roe v Wade and Planned Parenthood, it began a rapidly evolving conflict between the States on one of the most high profile and controversial constitutional debates of our day. While much has been made of the laws which have either restricted or protected access to abortions, conflicts often reach beyond the borders of States due to interstate commerce, the Full Faith and Credit Clause, and the Extradition Clause. For law students, this is an opportunity to see with unusual clarity the dynamics of the law in motion and to better understand state-federal conflicts.


To help you better understand how these conflicts are playing out today and where they may be leading in the future, host Chay Rodriguez is joined by professors Rachel Rebouché and David S. Cohen, co-authors of an article entitled “Abortion Shield Laws”, which has helped lead 18 States and D.C. to adopt laws protecting healthcare practitioners who provide abortion services for patients from states where abortion is illegal.


Click here to read the article professors Rebouché and Cohen co-authored.

  • (00:00) - Introducing today’s topic
  • (02:08) - Our guests Rachel Rebouche and David S. Cohen
  • (02:53) - Interview with Professor Rachel Rebouche
  • (03:00) - Intro to abortion shield laws and the conflict between States
  • (07:30) - How an article led to the development of shield laws for a post-Roe America’
  • (07:59) - How States banning abortion seek to impede abortion resources beyond their borders
  • (10:10) - The way the shield law evolved and developed first in Connecticut
  • (10:58) - Odds of a Supreme Court fight: Rebouche
  • (12:07) - Interview with Professor David S. Cohen
  • (12:15) - The post-Dobbs reality in America
  • (14:03) - The Full Faith and Credit Clause and abortion shield laws
  • (17:36) - Shield laws and State sovereignty
  • (18:44) - Odds of a Supreme Court fight: Cohen
  • (20:38) - Dobbs and economic classes: equal protection claims
  • (26:48) - How law students can get involved
  • (30:05) - Abortion trafficking
  • (34:20) - How scholarship can impact the legal landscape
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38 MIN
How Public Defenders Are Key to Fixing America's Criminal Justice System
NOV 18, 2024
How Public Defenders Are Key to Fixing America's Criminal Justice System

In 1963, the US Supreme Court ruled that all criminal defendants were guaranteed a right to counsel under the 6th and 14th Amendments. Jonathan Rapping, a former public defender and professor at John Marshall Law School, co-founded Gideon’s Promise to address the inadequacies of our public defender system by empowering motivated, passionate public defenders to work across the United States and bridge the gap between the ideal of the 6th Amendment’s right to counsel and the inadequacies of our criminal defense system. Prof. Rapping explains why a quality public defender system is so important for marginalized communities and our country as a whole, what it takes to be a great public defender, and how public defenders are addressing changes in our legal landscape.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (00:51) - Introducing Prof. Jonathan Rapping
  • (03:19) - What it takes to be a public defender
  • (04:29) - How law students can maintain their empathy and humanity
  • (06:43) - Prof. Rapping’s personal journey
  • (08:25) - The conflict of training lawyers in public defender offices
  • (10:16) - The mission of Gideon’s Promise
  • (12:19) - How Gideon’s Promise trains public defenders and why it matters
  • (13:47) - The real challenges public defenders face
  • (17:27) - YSL, OJ Simpson, and the public perception of criminal defense lawyers
  • (22:42) - Why underfunding public defense fails the American ideal
  • (24:37) - How public defenders are facing legal and social changes
  • (28:55) - Host takeaways and discussion

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40 MIN