<description>&lt;p&gt;So this episode was supposed to be just about PERFECT BLUE, Satoshi Kon's 1997 animated psychological thriller. But we couldn't stop at just one! So Renan and Bill went ahead and watched PAPRIKA, his 2006 science-fiction opus too, which also sadly would be his last feature film. Today, your hosts talk about the life and career of Satoshi Kon, his incredible imagination and mastery of technique, and how both films examine themes of dual identities. Also discussed: &lt;em&gt;Perfect Blue&lt;/em&gt; on the internet and celebrity culture; &lt;em&gt;Paprika&lt;/em&gt; on dreams and filmmaking; how Darren Aronofsky borrowed well and Christopher Nolan borrowed poorly—and borrow they did; plus, are these films definitely anime?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Episode links:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kon" target= "_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Satoshi Kon on Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0156887/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Perfect Blue&lt;/em&gt; on IMDb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Blue" target= "_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Perfect Blue&lt;/em&gt; on Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0851578/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Paprika&lt;/em&gt; on IMDb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paprika_(2006_film)" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Paprika&lt;/em&gt; on Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://web.archive.org/web/20120402165610/http://www.perfectblue.com/interview.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Satoshi Kon interview on PerfectBlue.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://lwlies.com/articles/perfect-blue-satoshi-kon-anime/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Little White Lies on the optimism of &lt;em&gt;Perfect Blue&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.dazeddigital.com/film-tv/article/37440/1/how-perfect-blue-predicted-a-dark-age-of-internet-celebrity" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Roisin Kiberd on &lt;em&gt;Perfect Blue&lt;/em&gt; and internet celebrity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://peachsalmanac.com/perfect-blue-satoshi-kons-masterpiece/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Peach's Almanac tries to explain &lt;em&gt;Perfect Blue&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/decoding-what-the-hell-is-going-on-in-the-anime-classic-paprika" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;SyFyWire tries to explain what happens in &lt;em&gt;Paprika&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.thatmomentin.com/paprika/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;ThatMomentIn also tries to explain &lt;em&gt;Paprika&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2010/12/14/borders-line-is-black-swan-the-perfect-blue-remake-weve-been-waiting-for" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Badass Digest on &lt;em&gt;Black Swan&lt;/em&gt; vs. &lt;em&gt;Perfect Blue&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://filmschoolrejects.com/the-synergy-of-inception-and-paprika-ffefd0973f12/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Film School Rejects on &lt;em&gt;Inception&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Paprika&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cn4FMIXNmTk/TTejTfxmOLI/AAAAAAAAAS4/8FIA1vu539w/s1600/1295480001103.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;"Screaming in a bathtub" side-by-side&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.letraslibres.com/sites/default/files/files6/files/u13/paprika_1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;"Shattered reality" side-by-side&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.forbes.com/sites/lukethompson/2019/03/26/perfect-blue-blu-ray-satoshi-kon-gkids-shout-factory/#754ccb4d7216" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Luke Thompson on Kon as anime&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz49vQwSoTE" target= "_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Satoshi Kon - Editing Space &amp; Time by Tony Zhou&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "http://www.dazeddigital.com/film-tv/article/39222/1/exploring-anime-legend-satoshi-kons-last-unfinished-film" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Dazed Digital on &lt;em&gt;The Dreaming Machine&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.theguardian.com/film/2010/aug/26/satoshi-kon-obituary" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;The Guardian obituary for Satoshi Kon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;Show links:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;Subscribe: &lt;a href= "http://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=https%3A%2F%2Fitunes.apple.com%2Fus%2Fpodcast%2Fenter-the-void%2Fid1046983012%3Fmt%3D2&amp;t=NTU4ZDRlYWNhOTJjMmFkOWUyMzg2YTU3ZTU5M2M3YjU4N2IzMGRjOSxkZ2pMdG1qcw%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3Alkwwvy3XryueEyxDWxwKOQ&amp;p=http%3A%2F%2Fenterthevoid.fm%2Fpost%2F158152319395%2Fseason-5-preview&amp;m=1"&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; 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Enter The Void

William Beutler + Renan Borelli

SXE9: PERFECT BLUE & PAPRIKA

MAY 29, 201983 MIN
Enter The Void

SXE9: PERFECT BLUE & PAPRIKA

MAY 29, 201983 MIN

Description

So this episode was supposed to be just about PERFECT BLUE, Satoshi Kon's 1997 animated psychological thriller. But we couldn't stop at just one! So Renan and Bill went ahead and watched PAPRIKA, his 2006 science-fiction opus too, which also sadly would be his last feature film. Today, your hosts talk about the life and career of Satoshi Kon, his incredible imagination and mastery of technique, and how both films examine themes of dual identities. Also discussed: Perfect Blue on the internet and celebrity culture; Paprika on dreams and filmmaking; how Darren Aronofsky borrowed well and Christopher Nolan borrowed poorly—and borrow they did; plus, are these films definitely anime?

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