Ryan Coogler began his career in film as a realist with “Fruitvale Station,” which tells the story of a true-to-life tragedy about a police killing in the Bay Area. He then directed the class drama of “Creed,” a celebrated “Rocky” sequel. But then he moved to the epic fantasy of Marvel’s hit “Black Panther” movies. In his newest project, “Sinners,” Coogler continues to deal with themes of history, faith, and race, but through the lens of horror. <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/jelani-cobb">Jelani Cobb</a> sat down with the director to discuss setting the film in the South, the mythology of the blues, and how he made a vampire story his own.

<description>&lt;p&gt;Ryan Coogler began his career in film as a realist with “Fruitvale Station,” which tells the story of a true-to-life tragedy about a police killing in the Bay Area. He then directed the class drama of “Creed,” a celebrated “Rocky” sequel. But then he moved to the epic fantasy of Marvel’s hit “Black Panther” movies. In his newest project, “Sinners,” Coogler continues to deal with themes of history, faith, and race, but through the lens of horror. &lt;a href="https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/jelani-cobb"&gt;Jelani Cobb&lt;/a&gt; sat down with the director to discuss setting the film in the South, the mythology of the blues, and how he made a vampire story his own. &lt;/p&gt;
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The director talks with the staff writer Jelani Cobb about his influences and mentors, and how he made a vampire story “uniquely personal.”

Ryan Coogler on “Sinners”

Ruth Marcus resigned from the Washington Post after its C.E.O. killed an editorial she wrote that was critical of the paper’s owner, Jeff Bezos. She ended up publishing the column in The New Yorker, and soon after she published another piece for the magazine asking “<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/has-trumps-legal-strategy-backfired">Has Trump’s Legal Strategy Backfired?</a>” “Trump’s legal strategy has been backfiring, I think, demonstrably in the lower courts,” she tells David Remnick, on issues such as undoing birthright citizenship and deporting people without due process. Federal judges have rebuked the Administration’s lawyers, and ordered deportees returned to the United States. But “we have this thing called the Supreme Court, which is, in fact, supreme,” Marcus says. “I thought the Supreme Court was going to send a message to the Trump Administration: ‘Back off, guys.’ . . . That’s not what’s happened.” In recent days, that Court has issued a number of rulings that, while narrow, suggest a more deferential approach toward Presidential power. Marcus and Remnick spoke last week about where the Supreme Court—with its six-Justice conservative majority—may yield to Trump’s extraordinary exertions of power, and where it may attempt to check his authority. “When you have a six-Justice conservative majority,” she notes, there is“a justice to spare.”

<description>&lt;p&gt;Ruth Marcus resigned from the Washington&lt;i&gt; Post&lt;/i&gt; after its C.E.O. killed an editorial she wrote that was critical of the paper’s owner, Jeff Bezos. She ended up publishing the column in &lt;i&gt;The New Yorker&lt;/i&gt;, and soon after she published another piece for the magazine asking “&lt;a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/has-trumps-legal-strategy-backfired"&gt;Has Trump’s Legal Strategy Backfired?&lt;/a&gt;” “Trump’s legal strategy has been backfiring, I think, demonstrably in the lower courts,” she tells David Remnick, on issues such as undoing birthright citizenship and deporting people without due process. Federal judges have rebuked the Administration’s lawyers, and ordered deportees returned to the United States. But “we have this thing called the Supreme Court, which is, in fact, supreme,” Marcus says. “I thought the Supreme Court was going to send a message to the Trump Administration: ‘Back off, guys.’ . . . That’s not what’s happened.” In recent days, that Court has issued a number of rulings that, while narrow, suggest a more deferential approach toward Presidential power. Marcus and Remnick spoke last week about where the Supreme Court—with its six-Justice conservative majority—may yield to Trump’s extraordinary exertions of power, and where it may attempt to check his authority. “When you have a six-Justice conservative majority,” she notes, there is“a justice to spare.”&lt;/p&gt;
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The contributor Ruth Marcus looks at resistance to executive orders by federal judges—and whether the Supreme Court will ultimately allow Trump to remake the government in his image.  

Will the Supreme Court Yield to Donald Trump?

Katie Kitamura’s fifth novel is “Audition,” and it focusses on a middle-aged actress and her ambiguous relationship with a much younger man. Kitamura tells the critic <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/jennifer-wilson">Jennifer Wilson</a> that she thought for a long time about an actress as protagonist, as a way to highlight the roles women play, and to provoke questions about agency. “I teach creative writing, and in class often ... if there is a character who the group feels doesn't have agency, that is often brought up as a criticism of the character,” she tells Wilson. Other students will say, “ ‘She doesn't have any agency,’ as if a character without agency is implausible or in some way not compelling in narrative terms. But of course, the reality is very few of us have total agency. I think we operate under the illusion or the impression that we have a great deal of agency. But in reality when you look at your life, our choices are quite constricted.” “Audition” comes out this week.

<description>&lt;p&gt;Katie Kitamura’s fifth novel is “Audition,” and it focusses on a middle-aged actress and her ambiguous relationship with a much younger man. Kitamura tells the critic &lt;a href="https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/jennifer-wilson"&gt;Jennifer Wilson&lt;/a&gt; that she thought for a long time about an actress as protagonist, as a way to highlight the roles women play, and to provoke questions about agency. “I teach creative writing, and in class often ... if there is a character who the group feels doesn't have agency, that is often brought up as a criticism of the character,” she tells Wilson. Other students will say, “ ‘She doesn't have any agency,’ as if a character without agency is implausible or in some way not compelling in narrative terms. But of course, the reality is very few of us have total agency. I think we operate under the illusion or the impression that we have a great deal of agency. But in reality when you look at your life, our choices are quite constricted.” &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Audition” comes out this week.  &lt;/p&gt;
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The novelist speaks with the staff writer Jennifer Wilson about her newest book, “Audition,” a nuanced story about desire, agency, and creative craft.

The Writer Katie Kitamura on Autonomy, Interpretation, and “Audition”

The microchip maker Nvidia is a Silicon Valley colossus. After years as a runner-up to Intel and Qualcomm, Nvidia has all but cornered the market on the parallel processors essential for artificial-intelligence programs like ChatGPT. “Nvidia was there at the beginning of A.I.,” the tech journalist Stephen Witt tells David Remnick. “They really kind of made these systems work for the first time. We think of A.I. as a software revolution, something called neural nets, but A.I. is also a hardware revolution.” In The New Yorker, Stephen Witt <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/12/04/how-jensen-huangs-nvidia-is-powering-the-ai-revolution">profiled</a> Jensen Huang, Nvidia’s brilliant and idiosyncratic co-founder and C.E.O. His new book is “<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/757558/the-thinking-machine-by-stephen-witt/">The Thinking Machine: Jensen Huang, Nvidia, and the World’s Most Coveted Microchip</a>.” Until recently, Nvidia was the most valuable company in the world, but its stock price has been volatile, posting the largest single-day loss in history in January. But the company’s story is only partially a business story; it’s also one about global superpowers, and who will decide the future. If China takes military action against Taiwan, as it has indicated it might, the move could wrest control of the manufacturing of Nvidia microchips from a Taiwanese firm, which is now investing in a massive production facility in the U.S. “Maybe what’s happening,” Witt speculates, is that “this kind of labor advantage that Asia had over the United States for a long time, maybe in the age of robots that labor advantage is going to go away. And then it doesn’t matter where we put the factory. The only thing that matters is, you know, is there enough power to supply it?” Plus, the staff writer Joshua Rothman has long been fascinated with A.I.—he even <a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/tnyradiohour/articles/geoffrey-hinton-its-far-too-late-to-stop-artificial-intelligence">interviewed</a> its “godfather,” Geoffrey Hinton, for The New Yorker Radio Hour. But Rothman has become increasingly concerned about a lack of public and political debate over A.I.—and about how thoroughly it may transform our lives. “Often, if you talk to people who are really close to the technology, the timelines they quote for really reaching transformative levels of intelligence are, like, shockingly soon,” he tells Remnick. “If we’re worried about the incompetence of government, on whatever side of that you situate yourself, we should worry about automated government. For example, an A.I. decides the length of a sentence in a criminal conviction, or an A.I. decides whether you qualify for Medicaid. Basically, we’ll have less of a say in how things go and computers will have more of a say.”Rothman’s essay “<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/open-questions/are-we-taking-ai-seriously-enough">Are We Taking A.I. Seriously Enough?</a>” appears in his weekly column, <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/open-questions">Open Questions</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;The microchip maker Nvidia is a Silicon Valley colossus. After years as a runner-up to Intel and Qualcomm, Nvidia has all but cornered the market on the parallel processors essential for artificial-intelligence programs like ChatGPT. “Nvidia was there at the beginning of A.I.,” the tech journalist Stephen Witt tells David Remnick. “They really kind of made these systems work for the first time. We think of A.I. as a software revolution, something called neural nets, but A.I. is also a hardware revolution.” In &lt;i&gt;The New Yorker&lt;/i&gt;, Stephen Witt &lt;a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/12/04/how-jensen-huangs-nvidia-is-powering-the-ai-revolution"&gt;profiled&lt;/a&gt; Jensen Huang, Nvidia’s brilliant and idiosyncratic co-founder and C.E.O. His new book is “&lt;a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/757558/the-thinking-machine-by-stephen-witt/"&gt;The Thinking Machine: Jensen Huang, Nvidia, and the World’s Most Coveted Microchip&lt;/a&gt;.” Until recently, Nvidia was the most valuable company in the world, but its stock price has been volatile, posting the largest single-day loss in history in January. But the company’s story is only partially a business story; it’s also one about global superpowers, and who will decide the future. If China takes military action against Taiwan, as it has indicated it might, the move could wrest control of the manufacturing of Nvidia microchips from a Taiwanese firm, which is now investing in a massive production facility in the U.S. “Maybe what’s happening,” Witt speculates, is that “this kind of labor advantage that Asia had over the United States for a long time, maybe in the age of robots that labor advantage is going to go away. And then it doesn’t matter where we put the factory. The only thing that matters is, you know, is there enough power to supply it?” &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Plus, the staff writer Joshua Rothman has long been fascinated with A.I.—he even &lt;a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/tnyradiohour/articles/geoffrey-hinton-its-far-too-late-to-stop-artificial-intelligence"&gt;interviewed&lt;/a&gt; its “godfather,” Geoffrey Hinton, for The New Yorker Radio Hour. But Rothman has become increasingly concerned about a lack of public and political debate over A.I.—and about how thoroughly it may transform our lives. “Often, if you talk to people who are really close to the technology, the timelines they quote for really reaching transformative levels of intelligence are, like, shockingly soon,” he tells Remnick. “If we’re worried about the incompetence of government, on whatever side of that you situate yourself, we should worry about automated government. For example, an A.I. decides the length of a sentence in a criminal conviction, or an A.I. decides whether you qualify for Medicaid. Basically, we’ll have less of a say in how things go and computers will have more of a say.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rothman’s essay “&lt;a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/open-questions/are-we-taking-ai-seriously-enough"&gt;Are We Taking A.I. Seriously Enough?&lt;/a&gt;” appears in his weekly column, &lt;a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/open-questions"&gt;Open Questions&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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Stephen Witt on the microchip maker’s rise, and the geopolitical challenges it faces. And, Rothman thinks people outside the tech world should help shape the impact of A.I.

Why the Tech Giant Nvidia May Own the Future. Plus, Joshua Rothman on Taking A.I Seriously

Thirty years ago, David Remnick published “<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1995/04/03/the-devil-problem">The Devil Problem</a>,” a profile of the religion professor Elaine Pagels—a scholar of early Christianity who had also, improbably, become a best-selling author. Pagels’s 1979 book, “<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/126049/the-gnostic-gospels-by-elaine-pagels/">The Gnostic Gospels</a>,” was scholarly and rigorous, but also accessible and widely read. She changed how a lot of people thought about the Bible. Pagels went on to write “<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/126050/the-origin-of-satan-by-elaine-pagels/">The Origin of Satan</a>,” as well as works on Adam and Eve and the Book of Revelation. Pagels's upcoming book, “<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/677236/miracles-and-wonder-by-elaine-pagels/">Miracles and Wonder: The Historical Mystery of Jesus</a>,” is a summation of her lifetime of study, as it takes on some of the central historical controversies of Christianity, including the stories of immaculate conception and the resurrection. The daughter of a scientist, Pagels “was living in a world in which science defines what you can see, and there’s nothing else.” Then, as a teen-ager, she was born again after seeing the evangelist Billy Graham preach. “This was about opening up the imagination,” she tells Remnick. “I did feel like the sky opened up.” Her time in the evangelical community was brief, but her fascination with belief never faded. “I have a sense that what we think of as the invisible world has deep realities to it that are quite unfathomable.”

<description>&lt;p&gt;Thirty years ago, David Remnick published “&lt;a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1995/04/03/the-devil-problem"&gt;The Devil Problem&lt;/a&gt;,” a profile of the religion professor Elaine Pagels—a scholar of early Christianity who had also, improbably, become a best-selling author. Pagels’s 1979 book, “&lt;a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/126049/the-gnostic-gospels-by-elaine-pagels/"&gt;The Gnostic Gospels&lt;/a&gt;,” was scholarly and rigorous, but also accessible and widely read. She changed how a lot of people thought about the Bible. Pagels went on to write “&lt;a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/126050/the-origin-of-satan-by-elaine-pagels/"&gt;The Origin of Satan&lt;/a&gt;,” as well as works on Adam and Eve and the Book of Revelation. Pagels's upcoming book, “&lt;a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/677236/miracles-and-wonder-by-elaine-pagels/"&gt;Miracles and Wonder: The Historical Mystery of Jesus&lt;/a&gt;,” is a summation of her lifetime of study, as it takes on some of the central historical controversies of Christianity, including the stories of immaculate conception and the resurrection. The daughter of a scientist, Pagels “was living in a world in which science defines what you can see, and there’s nothing else.” Then, as a teen-ager, she was born again after seeing the evangelist Billy Graham preach. “This was about opening up the imagination,” she tells Remnick. “I did feel like the sky opened up.” Her time in the evangelical community was brief, but her fascination with belief never faded. “I have a sense that what we think of as the invisible world has deep realities to it that are quite unfathomable.”&lt;/p&gt;
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After a lifetime spent studying Christianity, the scholar and best-selling author talks with David Remnick about why there’s still controversy over the religion’s foundational texts. 

Elaine Pagels on the Mysteries of Jesus

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