Howard catches up with Chris and asks about the current state of refereeing, if it's all VAR's fault, solutions, the future and more. *This is the first 10 minutes of the show. For the full episode, and all our other content on the 93:20 player, you can join below - for less than the price of a pint of beer each month.* ninetythreetwenty.com/9320-player/about-9320-player/