On the latest episode of dfm presented by Microsoft Advertising we speak with Erin Ashley Simon about the politics of gaming. Plus podcast listening isn't decreasing like so many think pieces say it is. Instead, certain types are falling off the radar. And finding Black creative talent through a search hack.

Plus music from Doctorsoul and Opolopo featuring Angela Johnson.

On the audio show at the intersection of marketing, tech, media and popular culture.

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