Dopey 573: Jamie Lee Curtis Returns! 27 Years Sober, How did she do it? + Meth Mites, Relapse, DUI in Vegas with Jeremy Turner
Timestamped Comprehensive Notes:
JAMIE COMES ON ABOUT 30 Minutes in!
00:00 – 02:51 Intro + Oro Recovery sponsor ad (Bob Forrest, compassion/connection philosophy, amenities like surfing/equine therapy, Newsweek top 5)
02:51 – 05:18 Dave welcomes, NyQuil "non-relapse" reflection (blocks "sunlight of the spirit," groggy mornings, poor prayers/meditation/exercise); Sean's email read (booze at home vs. heroin? obsession relief differences?)
05:18 – 07:40 Dave's response: no firm answer, social norms differ, has benzos/alcohol/NyQuil at home but no temptation; daily reprieve > recovered; calls for Dopey Nation opinions; plugs Dr. Carl Hart return
07:40 – 10:06 Spotify comments on Dave Marquez ep (congrats on Kratom/708 sobriety, close calls, spirit animal, thief entitlement, paramedic BJ curiosity/jealousy, more dirty details pleas)
10:06 – 12:33 More comments (paramedic obsession, Australia drinking stories, name pronunciation Simpsons ref, long-arc recovery praise, Katz's pic, El Camino/Better Call Saul recs)
12:33 – 14:59 Dave on Mad Men love (creativity/alcoholism/self-knowledge), Lodge 49 kicking comfort rec, Naloxone history note
14:59 – 17:23 Mountainside sponsor (detox/28-day program, coaching, aftercare, locations, 413-329-6838 John)
17:23 – 19:50 Max voicemail (Iowa): mushroom whale-watching in Puerto Vallarta, Bumble match with "autism shaman," late-diagnosed autistic revelation on boat
19:50 – 22:16 Max follow-up email/voicemail: Amtrak purgatory with Mennonites/satellite phone/credit cards, dom/sub cum-licking video task
22:16 – 24:41 Dave reacts (triple-threat story, socks prize, plea for IV/boofing/acid stories); Patreon plug (tiers, Tuesday eps, Zooms, stickers/socks/beanie, life coaching challenge)
24:41 – 27:06 Orchard Recovery sponsor (TX, 132-acre Brazos River property, private rooms, amenities, chef meals, 713-987-7570 Jane)
27:06 – 29:30 Sarah email: MN woman kicks 7-OH/kratom cold turkey (hip break trigger, bed shitting, avoided drink, ice fishing old men support, starting painting biz, Dopey gratitude)
29:30 – 31:57 Braeburn sponsor (Reframe & Reclaim YouTube series on reentry/recovery post-incarceration, Baltimore advocates); teases Jamie Lee Curtis return + Jeremy Turner update
31:57 – 34:22 Jamie Lee intro in Dave's childhood bedroom (size, Dr. Seuss books, reclaimed space/life); thanks for street cred since first appearance (~8 years ago)
34:22 – 36:49 Katz's deli meet-cute (accosted Jamie for hat/bagel, "dope fiend" line, privacy vs. public life, autograph hunters "lying in wait")
36:49 – 39:05 "Dope fiend" demystifies glamour, craving/phenomenon of craving; Dave's apartment loss story (treatment advice to parents)
39:05 – 41:26 Jamie's routine now (COVID Zoom shift, sponsee/private celeb meetings → text chains, Book of Awakening + recovery daily + Language of Letting Go readings)
41:26 – 43:50 Daily texts: 3 gratitudes (Vitamin G), 3 fears/conflicts, 1 personal attribute (e.g., "idea chick" for Scarpetta/Blumhouse success)
43:50 – 46:12 Dude recovery text group, fear of age/work demands, war/global fears
46:12 – 48:34 Attribute example (idea person → Scarpetta series with Nicole Kidman/Simon Baker/Bobby Cannavale/Ariana DeBose)
48:34 – 50:51 Defects (self-criticism, people-pleasing/fawning/fear/confrontation avoidance), sobriety granting agency/mind of own
50:51 – 53:19 Mythological/calcified family ideas/intimidation, Steinbeck free mind quote, ideas excitement vs. AI limits
53:19 – 55:45 Post-60 urgency ("if not now, when?"), Halloween trilogy/Blumhouse deal, Mother Nature eco-horror, Sender film at SXSW
55:45 – 58:10 Self-deprecation as humiliation (Hannah Gadsby Nanette quote), sobriety as humility
58:10 – 01:00:35 Bear role (Donna's white-knuckle sobriety/family dinner, pregnancy news shame, labor attendance, monologue on pain caused)
01:00:35 – 01:02:37 Suffering universality, high/low bottoms same, always at risk (kratom/cava examples)
01:02:37 – 01:04:54 Foundation for a Better Life "Pass It On" sobriety poster, Bear restaurant coincidence
01:04:54 – 01:07:03 Tom Chiarella Esquire article trigger (Vicodin hiding), Richard Lewis outreach, first meeting 1999
01:07:03 – 01:09:21 Curb Your Enthusiasm comedian laughs at meetings, preference for "regular people" rooms
01:09:21 – 01:11:45 Dave thanks, Jamie praises Dopey as profound/Nobel-level; Scarpetta promo
01:11:45 – 01:14:08 Jeremy Turner call: meth mites (physical, gorse plant?), recent Vegas DUI/car tow, heavy drinking relapse, current meth (snorting/smoking), new sponsor "on break"
01:14:08 – 01:16:20 Oregon life (Abandoned coast, 80° year-round, cranberry fields, older meetings), meth scene (woods/trailers)
01:16:20 – 01:18:45 Girlfriend losing hope (raised 5 kids, now #6), job painting (light green), no drinking on meds
01:18:45 – 01:21:04 Fentanyl test puff → panic (intentional OD thought), bottoms not near yet, 8-year friendship
01:21:04 – 01:23:06 Plea to finish job/sleep/sponsor/Dopey Zoom; love/encouragement
01:23:06 – 01:25:05 Jamie thanks/outro, Dopey Wood plug (Maron/Lee/Cho/Hammond/Towers/Mikofsky/Miller)
01:25:05 – 01:27:30 Jamie visit details (assistant/security, lap pic), inspiring 27 years sober
01:27:30 – 01:30:51 Safe Spot (1-800-972-0590), sticker contest end Sunday, Custom Stickers ad (Dopey20 discount)
01:30:51 – 01:33:06 Jake (WV) banjo cover of "Good So Bad" + original verse (basement/dopey show/pulse check/high better)
01:33:06 – end Dave closes: emails/voicemails/Spotify comments, dopeyzoom.com, stay strong/toodles for Chris