Horror Business
Horror Business

Horror Business

Justin Lore

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Horror Business is an ongoing conversation about Horror Films. Lifelong horror fans Justin Lore and Liam O’Donnell gather monthly to discuss and dissect horror films in  a sophisticated yet accessible manner. Academic yet easily digestible. High art washed down with a healthy dose of camp. Pinkies in the air whilst sipping our root beer.  You get the picture. On Horror Business Justin and Liam will watch a double feature and go in depth about the films, and each show they will invite you, the listener, to be a part of the conversation.

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HORROR BUSINESS Episode 162: FROM THE OLD EARTH and BORN OF FIRE
DEC 10, 2025
HORROR BUSINESS Episode 162: FROM THE OLD EARTH and BORN OF FIRE
<p style="font-weight: 400;">            Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business. We’ve got one heck of an episode in store for you guys, as we’re talking about 1981’s <em>From The Old Earth </em>and 1987’s <em>Born Of Fire.</em></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">             First off, thank you to the fine folks over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screen-printing company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a t-shirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or koozie. Head on over to <a href="http://www.xlvacx.com/">www.xlvacx.com</a> to check them out. Thank you also to Essex Coffee Roasters, our newest sponsor. Head to <a href="http://www.essexcoffeeroasters.com/">www.essexcoffeeroasters.com</a> to check out their fine assortment of coffee and enter CINEPUNX in the promo code for ten percent off your order! And as always thank you to our Patreon subscribers. Your support means the world to us and we are eternally thankful. If you would like to become a Patron, head to patreon.com/cinepunx. Thanks in advance!</p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">            We briefly talk what we’ve doing involving horror recently. Liam talks about seeing the remastered version of <em>Re-Animator, Lord Of Illusions, Black Eyed Susan,</em> and House<em> of Dynamite</em>. Justin talks about some of the films he saw for Brooklyn Horror Film Festival and Screamfest, as well as the films <em>Alma and the Wolf, Somnium, The Astronaut, and Traumatika</em>, and the HBO series <em>Welcome To Derry</em>.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29861" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearthposter.jpeg?resize=400%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="400" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearthposter.jpeg?resize=400%2C600&amp;ssl=1 400w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearthposter.jpeg?resize=200%2C300&amp;ssl=1 200w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearthposter.jpeg?resize=768%2C1152&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearthposter.jpeg?resize=370%2C555&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearthposter.jpeg?resize=760%2C1140&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearthposter.jpeg?w=1000&amp;ssl=1 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">             Up first is <em>From The Old Earth. </em>Justin talks about how this feels very much like the archetypical folk horror film. We talk about the history of the attempts to keep the Welsh language alive. We briefly talk about the history of Wales and how British colonialism had long attempted to crush the Welsh culture.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-29860" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth1.jpeg?resize=750%2C450&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="750" height="450" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth1.jpeg?w=750&amp;ssl=1 750w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth1.jpeg?resize=300%2C180&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth1.jpeg?resize=370%2C222&amp;ssl=1 370w" sizes="(max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">Justin talks about the role of the Welsh in Lovecraftian fiction, particularly Colin Wilson’s short story, “The Return Of The Lloigor.” We discuss how despite taking place in Wales, the film still has a very British feel to it. The fact that only women can see the villain (a shadowy god) is touched upon and how that plays into the misogynistic views of post-WWII UK.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29859" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth2.jpeg?resize=750%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="750" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth2-scaled.jpeg?resize=750%2C600&amp;ssl=1 750w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth2-scaled.jpeg?resize=300%2C240&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth2-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C614&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth2-scaled.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1229&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth2-scaled.jpeg?resize=2048%2C1638&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth2-scaled.jpeg?resize=370%2C296&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth2-scaled.jpeg?resize=760%2C608&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth2-scaled.jpeg?w=2340&amp;ssl=1 2340w" sizes="(max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">Liam talks about the relative lack of gore and blood, and how despite not being out-and-out frightening, it still has a good amount of creepiness. Justin talks about how the film accomplishes what a folk horror film sets out to do, which is presenting a sense of time and portraying the modern world as a thin veneer resting upon the horrors of the primordial past.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29858" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth3.jpeg?resize=750%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="750" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth3-scaled.jpeg?resize=750%2C600&amp;ssl=1 750w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth3-scaled.jpeg?resize=300%2C240&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth3-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C614&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth3-scaled.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1229&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth3-scaled.jpeg?resize=2048%2C1638&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth3-scaled.jpeg?resize=370%2C296&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth3-scaled.jpeg?resize=760%2C608&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/oldearth3-scaled.jpeg?w=2340&amp;ssl=1 2340w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">Justin also talks about the theme of feminine fertility being the enemy of some of these deities. We talk some more about the basic tenets of folk horror.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29866" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffireposter.jpeg?resize=401%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="401" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffireposter.jpeg?resize=401%2C600&amp;ssl=1 401w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffireposter.jpeg?resize=201%2C300&amp;ssl=1 201w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffireposter.jpeg?resize=768%2C1148&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffireposter.jpeg?resize=370%2C553&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffireposter.jpeg?resize=760%2C1136&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffireposter.jpeg?w=1000&amp;ssl=1 1000w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 401px) 100vw, 401px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">            Up next is <em>Born Of Fire. </em>We give a summary of the film. We talk about how the film, despite being directed by a Pakistani person, presents some rather problematic views of Turkey, in that Turkey is presented as a place inhabited by actual cave dwellers.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29863" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffire3.jpeg?resize=1152%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1152" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffire3.jpeg?resize=1152%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1152w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffire3.jpeg?resize=300%2C156&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffire3.jpeg?resize=768%2C400&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffire3.jpeg?resize=370%2C193&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffire3.jpeg?resize=760%2C396&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bornoffire3.jpeg?w=1440&amp;ssl=1 1440w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1152px) 100vw, 1152px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">Liam talks about the film&#8217;s British sensibility of being simultaneously uptight and horny, and its utter lack of subtlety. We talk about the film’s themes of decadence and temptation, as well as hints of a Charlie Daniels-esque master flautist vs. the devil. We talk about the history of “trickster” beings in Europe, tying back to a Muslim influence and the Muslim concept of the djinn.</p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">            As always, thank you for listening and to everyone and anyone who donated on Patreon, checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening and donating<em>. </em>Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to </span><a style="font-weight: 400;" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><span style="font-weight: 400;">. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller, Jacob Roberts, Paul Sharkey, and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the shirts and fliers (you can check more of his work out at </span><a style="font-weight: 400;" href="https://www.smaczylo.com/">here</a><span style="font-weight: 400;">), and also thanks to Josh Alvarez for the theme song, Chris, Brad, and LVAC for the support <em>and </em>buttons (check them out at </span><a style="font-weight: 400;" href="http://www.xlvacx.com/">www.xlvacx.com</a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and </span><a style="font-weight: 400;" href="https://twitter.com/the_LVAC?s=20">on Twitter</a><span style="font-weight: 400;">), Essex Coffee Roasters (</span><a style="font-weight: 400;" href="http://www.essexcoffeeroasters.com/">www.essexcoffeeroasters.com</a><span style="font-weight: 400;">) and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at @</span><a style="font-weight: 400;" href="https://twitter.com/thehorrorbiz666">thehorrorbiz666</a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, check out our Spotify account at Cinepunx, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes. In fact, if you write us a review, email us with your mailing address and we’ll send you some free pins and stickers!  Check out </span><a style="font-weight: 400;" href="http://www.cinepunx.com/">www.cinepunx.com</a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> for more info on some of our other podcasts, some ultra-stylish Cinepunx related merchandise, and how you can donate to our Patreon! Until next time…thanks!</span></p>
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66 MIN
EPISODE 161: CREATURE & WITHIN THE ROCK
OCT 9, 2025
EPISODE 161: CREATURE & WITHIN THE ROCK
<p>Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business. We’ve got one heck of an episode in store for you guys as we’re talking about 1985’s <em>Creature </em>and 1996’s <em>Within The Rock.</em></p> <p>First off, thank you to the fine folks over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screen-printing company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a t-shirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or koozie. Head on over to <a href="http://www.xlvacx.com/">www.xlvacx.com</a> to check them out. Thank you also to Essex Coffee Roasters, our newest sponsor. Head to <a href="http://www.essexcoffeeroasters.com/">www.essexcoffeeroasters.com</a> to check out their fine assortment of coffee and enter CINEPUNX in the promo code for ten percent off your order! And as always thank you to our Patreon subscribers. Your support means the world to us and we are eternally thankful. If you would like to become a Patron, head to patreon.com/cinepunx. Thanks in advance!</p> <p>We briefly talk what we’ve doing involving horror recently. Liam talks about reading the comic <em>Houses Of The Unholy, </em>the book <em>Cuckoo </em>and the FX series <em>Alien: Earth, </em>as well as the film <em>The Long Walk.  </em>Justin talks about attending the Mahoning Drive In’s annual David Lynch Weekend and seeing <em>Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me </em>and <em>Mulholland Drive, </em>as well as the films <em>Bring Her Back, The Luckiest Man In America, She Loved Blossoms More, </em>and <em>Good Boy.</em></p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29565" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creatureposter.jpeg?resize=520%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="520" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creatureposter.jpeg?resize=520%2C600&amp;ssl=1 520w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creatureposter.jpeg?resize=260%2C300&amp;ssl=1 260w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creatureposter.jpeg?resize=768%2C886&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creatureposter.jpeg?resize=370%2C427&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creatureposter.jpeg?resize=760%2C877&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creatureposter.jpeg?w=867&amp;ssl=1 867w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 520px) 100vw, 520px" /><br /> Up first is <em>Creature.</em> We talk about director William Malone’s filmography, particularly <em>The House On Haunted Hill.</em> We talk about how even though it’s not a very good movie it’s still a fun movie.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29564" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature2.jpeg?resize=1067%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1067" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature2.jpeg?resize=1067%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1067w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature2.jpeg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature2.jpeg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature2.jpeg?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature2.jpeg?resize=2048%2C1152&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature2.jpeg?resize=370%2C208&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature2.jpeg?resize=1170%2C658&amp;ssl=1 1170w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature2.jpeg?resize=760%2C428&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature2.jpeg?w=2340&amp;ssl=1 2340w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1067px) 100vw, 1067px" /><br /> We discuss how Malone fails to hide the shoddiness of the creature FX because he keeps it too much in the dark. We talk about how the film attempts to use elements from <em>Planet Of The Vampires </em>to hide the elements from <em>Alien </em>that don’t work.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-29563" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature3.png?resize=720%2C306&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="720" height="306" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature3.png?w=720&amp;ssl=1 720w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature3.png?resize=300%2C128&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/creature3.png?resize=370%2C157&amp;ssl=1 370w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px" /><br /> Klaus Kinski’s insane performance is touched upon. The unnecessary sex scenes are discussed, but we point out that as bad as the movie is and how unfocused it is, it’s never a boring film.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29568" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/withintherockposter.jpeg?resize=365%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="365" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/withintherockposter.jpeg?resize=365%2C600&amp;ssl=1 365w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/withintherockposter.jpeg?resize=182%2C300&amp;ssl=1 182w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/withintherockposter.jpeg?resize=370%2C609&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/withintherockposter.jpeg?w=760&amp;ssl=1 760w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 365px) 100vw, 365px" /><br /> Up next is <em>Within The Rock. </em>We talk about director Gary Tuncliffe’s involvement in the <em>Hellraiser </em>franchise as well as the strange overlap this film has with the <em>Terminator </em>franchise due to it being produced by Robert Patrick and character actor Dale Dye’s insane filmography outside of this movie. Liam talks about the few things he likes about the movie, including the creature design which came off more as kaiju-y than anything else.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29567" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/withintherock1.webp?resize=1067%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1067" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/withintherock1.webp?resize=1067%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1067w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/withintherock1.webp?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/withintherock1.webp?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/withintherock1.webp?resize=370%2C208&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/withintherock1.webp?resize=1170%2C658&amp;ssl=1 1170w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/withintherock1.webp?resize=760%2C428&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/withintherock1.webp?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1067px) 100vw, 1067px" /><br /> We discuss the clunky narrative structure of the film and how it feels the need to repeatedly remind us of the creatures origin in awkward ways. We talk about the films lack of tension despite it taking place on a rock that’s hurtling towards earth. The films inability to measure up to <em>Alien’s</em> ability to get us invested in all the characters and instead presenting us with boring unrelatable characters is discussed.</p> <p>As always thank you for listening and to everyone and anyone who donated on Patreon, checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening and donating<em>. </em>Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller, Jacob Roberts, Paul Sharkey, and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the shirts and fliers (you can check more of his work out at <a href="https://www.smaczylo.com/">here</a>), and also thanks to Josh Alvarez for the theme song, Chris, Brad, and LVAC for the support <em>and </em>buttons (check them out at <a href="http://www.xlvacx.com/">www.xlvacx.com</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/the_LVAC?s=20">on Twitter</a>), Essex Coffee Roasters (<a href="http://www.essexcoffeeroasters.com/">www.essexcoffeeroasters.com</a>) and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at @<a href="https://twitter.com/thehorrorbiz666">thehorrorbiz666</a>, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, check out our Spotify account at Cinepunx, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes. In fact, if you write us a review, email us with your mailing address and we’ll send you some free pins and stickers!  Check out <a href="http://www.cinepunx.com/">www.cinepunx.com</a> for more info on some of our other podcasts, some ultra-stylish Cinepunx related merchandise, and how you can donate to our Patreon! Until next time…thanks!</p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">
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71 MIN
HORROR BUSINESS Episode 160: GANJA & HESS and VAMP
SEP 2, 2025
HORROR BUSINESS Episode 160: GANJA & HESS and VAMP
<p style="font-weight: 400;">           Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business. We’ve got one heck of an episode in store for you guys as we’re talking about 1973’s <em>Ganja &amp; Hess</em> and 1986’s <em>Vamp.</em></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">            First off thank you to the fine folks over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screen-printing company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a t-shirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to <a href="http://www.xlvacx.com/">www.xlvacx.com</a> to check them out. Thank you also to Essex Coffee Roasters, our newest sponsor. Head to <a href="http://www.essexcoffeeroasters.com/">www.essexcoffeeroasters.com</a> to check out their fine assortment of coffee and enter CINEPUNX in the promo code for ten percent off your order! And as always thank you to our Patreon subscribers. Your support means the world to us and we are eternally thankful. If you would like to become a Patron, head to patreon.com/cinepunx. Thanks in advance!</p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">            We briefly talk what we’ve doing involving horror recently. We talk about the films <em>Weapons, Together, </em>and <em>Who Can Kill A Child?, </em>and <em>The Fantastic Four: First Steps.</em></p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29401" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahessposter.jpeg?resize=408%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="408" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahessposter.jpeg?resize=408%2C600&amp;ssl=1 408w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahessposter.jpeg?resize=204%2C300&amp;ssl=1 204w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahessposter.jpeg?resize=768%2C1128&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahessposter.jpeg?resize=370%2C544&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahessposter.jpeg?resize=760%2C1116&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahessposter.jpeg?w=1000&amp;ssl=1 1000w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 408px) 100vw, 408px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">            Up first is <em>Ganja &amp; Hess.</em> Justin talks about how this is his first time viewing the movie, and how it goes against a lot of horror tropes and stereotypes and defies the norms of “blaxploitation.”</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29400" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess1.jpeg?resize=1067%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1067" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess1.jpeg?resize=1067%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1067w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess1.jpeg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess1.jpeg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess1.jpeg?resize=370%2C208&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess1.jpeg?resize=1170%2C658&amp;ssl=1 1170w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess1.jpeg?resize=760%2C428&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess1.jpeg?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1067px) 100vw, 1067px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">We talk about Bill Gunn’s emphasis both on traditional Christian imagery and African spirituality as well as the themes of addiction present in the film.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29399" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess2.png?resize=1069%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1069" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess2.png?resize=1069%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1069w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess2.png?resize=300%2C168&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess2.png?resize=768%2C431&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess2.png?resize=1536%2C862&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess2.png?resize=370%2C208&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess2.png?resize=1170%2C658&amp;ssl=1 1170w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess2.png?resize=760%2C427&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess2.png?w=1860&amp;ssl=1 1860w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1069px) 100vw, 1069px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">The concept of romance being found in a cursed relationship is discussed, in that it’s a film in the tradition of “is love more important that XYZ?” Bill Gunn’s interpretation of “the black experience” through the film is discussed, as is how that element of the film may have hampered Its commercial success.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29398" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess3.webp?resize=1067%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1067" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess3.webp?resize=1067%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1067w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess3.webp?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess3.webp?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess3.webp?resize=370%2C208&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess3.webp?resize=1170%2C658&amp;ssl=1 1170w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess3.webp?resize=760%2C427&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/ganjahess3.webp?w=1366&amp;ssl=1 1366w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1067px) 100vw, 1067px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">The element of traditional folk horror of something that was once lost is returning to corrupt is touched up. The career of writer/director Bill Gunn is discussed, as is Spike Lee’s maligned remake of the film.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29397" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vampposter.jpeg?resize=450%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="450" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vampposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=450%2C600&amp;ssl=1 450w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vampposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vampposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vampposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=1152%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1152w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vampposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=1536%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vampposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=370%2C493&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vampposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=760%2C1013&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vampposter-scaled.jpeg?w=1920&amp;ssl=1 1920w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">            Up next is <em>Vamp.</em> Justin talks about his celebrity crush on Grace Jones and how this movie messed with his head by turning her into a horrifying monster.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29396" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp1.jpeg?resize=1067%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1067" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp1.jpeg?resize=1067%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1067w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp1.jpeg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp1.jpeg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp1.jpeg?resize=370%2C208&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp1.jpeg?resize=1170%2C658&amp;ssl=1 1170w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp1.jpeg?resize=760%2C428&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp1.jpeg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1067px) 100vw, 1067px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">We talk about how unfortunately she is largely the only good thing in this film, and how it almost makes no sense that she’s in it because she’s only in it for a very short period of time and yet is treated as the main creature.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29395" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp2.jpeg?resize=1063%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1063" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp2.jpeg?resize=1063%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1063w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp2.jpeg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp2.jpeg?resize=768%2C433&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp2.jpeg?resize=370%2C209&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp2.jpeg?resize=760%2C429&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp2.jpeg?w=1274&amp;ssl=1 1274w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1063px) 100vw, 1063px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">Justin talks about how the villains in the film (Billy Drago and Grace Jones) are by far the most compelling characters, and we talk about how despite being a horror film it felt very much like problematic ‘80s comedies, almost like a <em>Porky’s </em>with vampires/any other annoying ‘80s comedy.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29394" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp3.jpeg?resize=1066%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1066" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp3.jpeg?resize=1066%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1066w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp3.jpeg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp3.jpeg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp3.jpeg?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp3.jpeg?resize=370%2C208&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp3.jpeg?resize=1170%2C658&amp;ssl=1 1170w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp3.jpeg?resize=760%2C428&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/vamp3.jpeg?w=1800&amp;ssl=1 1800w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1066px) 100vw, 1066px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">We talk about how unlike other ‘80s horror comedies like <em>Fright Night</em> this film lacks any sort of real emotional core. We discuss the film as a “sweaty LA movie” on HBO/ late night cable.</p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">            As always thank you for listening and to everyone and anyone who donated on Patreon, checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening and donating<em>. </em>Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>. We would love to hear from you! 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HORROR BUSINESS Episode 159: HORROR EXPRESS and LAND OF THE MINOTAUR
JUL 7, 2025
HORROR BUSINESS Episode 159: HORROR EXPRESS and LAND OF THE MINOTAUR
<p style="font-weight: 400;">          Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business. We’ve got one heck of an episode in store for you guys as we’re talking about 1972’s <em>Horror Express</em> and 1976’s <em>Land Of The Minotaur.</em></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">          First off thank you to the fine folks over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screen-printing company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a t-shirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to <a href="http://www.xlvacx.com/">www.xlvacx.com</a> to check them out. Thank you also to Essex Coffee Roasters, our newest sponsor. Head to <a href="http://www.essexcoffeeroasters.com/">www.essexcoffeeroasters.com</a> to check out their fine assortment of coffee and enter CINEPUNX in the promo code for ten percent off your order! And as always thank you to our Patreon subscribers. Your support means the world to us and we are eternally thankful. If you would like to become a Patron, head to patreon.com/cinepunx. Thanks in advance!</p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">          We briefly talk what we’ve doing involving horror recently. We talk about the films <em>28 Years Later, Predator: Killer Of Killers, Found Footage: The Making Of The Patterson Project, </em>and <em>K-Pop Demon Hunters, </em>as well as the manga <em>Blood On The Tracks.</em></p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28650" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpressposter.jpeg?resize=408%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="408" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpressposter.jpeg?resize=408%2C600&amp;ssl=1 408w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpressposter.jpeg?resize=204%2C300&amp;ssl=1 204w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpressposter.jpeg?resize=768%2C1130&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpressposter.jpeg?resize=370%2C545&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpressposter.jpeg?resize=760%2C1119&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpressposter.jpeg?w=1000&amp;ssl=1 1000w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 408px) 100vw, 408px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">           Up first is <em>Horror Express</em>. Liam gives a brief history of his viewing of the film and how the film had Hammer Film vibes, and how the film has a distinctly different vibe from the classic monster movies of the 1950s in that it’s a bit “meaner” and strangely sophisticated for a film from the time.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28648" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress2.webp?resize=800%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="800" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress2.webp?resize=800%2C600&amp;ssl=1 800w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress2.webp?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress2.webp?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress2.webp?resize=370%2C278&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress2.webp?resize=760%2C570&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress2.webp?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">We talk about how it feels like everyone in the film is genuinely in danger and how the film is classic Lee and Cushing, as well as the elements of ‘60s spy movies that show up throughout the film. Justin talks about how the film could have simply rested on the laurels of the plotline of having Christopher Lee smuggle a frozen creature onto a train that thaws out but instead veers off into a weird cosmic horror direction, as well as the film bearing a strong resemblance to <em>The Thing From Another World. </em></p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28649" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress1.webp?resize=1011%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1011" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress1.webp?resize=1011%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1011w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress1.webp?resize=300%2C178&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress1.webp?resize=768%2C456&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress1.webp?resize=1536%2C911&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress1.webp?resize=370%2C220&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress1.webp?resize=760%2C451&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/horrorexpress1.webp?w=1758&amp;ssl=1 1758w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1011px) 100vw, 1011px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">The shoddy visual FX of the film and how they become uncanny in their shoddiness is discussed. The film tiptoeing into Lovecraftian territory is touched upon.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28646" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaurposter.jpeg?resize=450%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="450" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaurposter.jpeg?resize=450%2C600&amp;ssl=1 450w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaurposter.jpeg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaurposter.jpeg?resize=768%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaurposter.jpeg?resize=1152%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1152w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaurposter.jpeg?resize=370%2C493&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaurposter.jpeg?resize=760%2C1013&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaurposter.jpeg?w=1536&amp;ssl=1 1536w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">          Up next is <em>Land Of The Minotaur</em>. We talk at length about the films lazy and seemingly confused messaging on religion and how it’s a bit of a letdown that it relies upon well-worn Judeo-Christian themes when it comes to good and evil.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28645" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur1.jpeg?resize=1067%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1067" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur1.jpeg?resize=1067%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1067w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur1.jpeg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur1.jpeg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur1.jpeg?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur1.jpeg?resize=2048%2C1152&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur1.jpeg?resize=370%2C208&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur1.jpeg?resize=1170%2C658&amp;ssl=1 1170w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur1.jpeg?resize=760%2C428&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur1.jpeg?w=2340&amp;ssl=1 2340w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1067px) 100vw, 1067px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">Liam talks about the extremely bad ADR and Donald Pleasance’s less than stellar performance. We talk about the icons of Christianity in horror film and its implications of the objective reality of Christianity and how that makes for a weak conflict since God cannot be defeated in the logic of Christianity.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28643" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur3.jpeg?resize=1067%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1067" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur3.jpeg?resize=1067%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1067w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur3.jpeg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur3.jpeg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur3.jpeg?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur3.jpeg?resize=370%2C208&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur3.jpeg?resize=1170%2C658&amp;ssl=1 1170w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur3.jpeg?resize=760%2C428&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/landoftheminotaur3.jpeg?w=1920&amp;ssl=1 1920w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1067px) 100vw, 1067px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">The film’s suggestion that Peter Cushing’s villainy stems from him being foreign is discussed. We talk about the costume choice of the cult in that they very much are “fancy Klan outfits”.  Brian Eno’s work on the soundtrack is also touched upon.</p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">          As always thank you for listening and to everyone and anyone who donated on Patreon, checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening and donating<em>. </em>Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>. We would love to hear from you! 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HORROR BUSINESS Episode 158: THE WAILING & EXHUMA
JUN 16, 2025
HORROR BUSINESS Episode 158: THE WAILING & EXHUMA
<p style="font-weight: 400;">            Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business. We’ve got one heck of an episode in store for you guys as we’re talking about 2016’s <em>The Wailing </em>and 2025’s <em>Exhuma.</em></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">            First off thank you to the fine folks over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screen-printing company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a t-shirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to <a href="http://www.xlvacx.com/">www.xlvacx.com</a> to check them out. Thank you also to Essex Coffee Roasters, our newest sponsor. Head to <a href="http://www.essexcoffeeroasters.com/">www.essexcoffeeroasters.com</a> to check out their fine assortment of coffee and enter CINEPUNX in the promo code for ten percent off your order! And as always thank you to our Patreon subscribers. Your support means the world to us and we are eternally thankful. If you would like to become a Patron, head to patreon.com/cinepunx. Thanks in advance!</p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">            We briefly talk what we’ve doing involving horror recently. We talk about the films <em>Sinners, Clown In A Cornfield, </em>and <em>Heart Eyes, </em>as well as the television series <em>The Last Of Us </em>and the novel <em>The Devils </em>by Joe Abercrombie.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28454" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailingposter.jpeg?resize=405%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="405" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailingposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=405%2C600&amp;ssl=1 405w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailingposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=203%2C300&amp;ssl=1 203w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailingposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C1138&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailingposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=1037%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1037w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailingposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=1383%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 1383w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailingposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=370%2C548&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailingposter-scaled.jpeg?resize=760%2C1126&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailingposter-scaled.jpeg?w=1728&amp;ssl=1 1728w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 405px) 100vw, 405px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">             Up first is <em>The Wailing. </em>We start by talking about actor Jun Kunimura’s extensive filmography. We talk about our initial experience with the film, with Liam talking about how much he enjoyed it the second time around.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28451" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing2.jpeg?resize=900%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="900" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing2.jpeg?resize=900%2C600&amp;ssl=1 900w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing2.jpeg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing2.jpeg?resize=768%2C512&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing2.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing2.jpeg?resize=370%2C247&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing2.jpeg?resize=760%2C507&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing2.jpeg?w=2000&amp;ssl=1 2000w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">Justin talks about the convoluted but not messy nature of the plot, and how the concept of a character whose presence incites violence in those surrounding him.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28452" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing3.webp?resize=900%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="900" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing3-scaled.webp?resize=900%2C600&amp;ssl=1 900w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing3-scaled.webp?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing3-scaled.webp?resize=768%2C512&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing3-scaled.webp?resize=1536%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing3-scaled.webp?resize=2048%2C1365&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing3-scaled.webp?resize=370%2C247&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing3-scaled.webp?resize=760%2C507&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing3-scaled.webp?w=2340&amp;ssl=1 2340w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">We spend a goodish amount of time discussing the history of Japanese imperialism and how that has essentially scarred the collective psyche of Korea, and how the result Korean prejudice towards the Japanese is, if nothing else, understandable.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28450" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing1.jpeg?resize=1068%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1068" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing1.jpeg?resize=1068%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1068w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing1.jpeg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing1.jpeg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing1.jpeg?resize=1536%2C863&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing1.jpeg?resize=370%2C208&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing1.jpeg?resize=1170%2C658&amp;ssl=1 1170w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing1.jpeg?resize=760%2C427&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/thewailing1.jpeg?w=2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1068px) 100vw, 1068px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">We talk about how the Japanese character in the film feels almost like a red herring set up but ultimately is far worse than what we’re led to believe. We brief talk about the original ending of the film and how that affects the rest of the movie and why the director may have chosen to change it.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28449" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhumaposter.jpeg?resize=406%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="406" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhumaposter.jpeg?resize=406%2C600&amp;ssl=1 406w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhumaposter.jpeg?resize=203%2C300&amp;ssl=1 203w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhumaposter.jpeg?resize=768%2C1135&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhumaposter.jpeg?resize=370%2C547&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhumaposter.jpeg?resize=760%2C1123&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhumaposter.jpeg?w=812&amp;ssl=1 812w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 406px) 100vw, 406px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">            Up next is <em>Exhuma. </em>Justin talks about how the film draws upon religious ecstasy and the nature of ritual for a source of horror.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28448" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma3.jpeg?resize=1067%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1067" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma3.jpeg?resize=1067%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1067w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma3.jpeg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma3.jpeg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma3.jpeg?resize=370%2C208&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma3.jpeg?resize=1170%2C658&amp;ssl=1 1170w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma3.jpeg?resize=760%2C428&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma3.jpeg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1067px) 100vw, 1067px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">We discuss how the film could’ve simply been about a geomancer dealing with a restless vengeful ghost but instead chooses to, just as The<em> Wailing </em>did, fold Korean history into the mix by once again using Japanese atrocities a source of horror.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28447" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma2.jpeg?resize=900%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="900" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma2.jpeg?resize=900%2C600&amp;ssl=1 900w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma2.jpeg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma2.jpeg?resize=768%2C512&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma2.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma2.jpeg?resize=370%2C247&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma2.jpeg?resize=760%2C507&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma2.jpeg?w=1800&amp;ssl=1 1800w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">The films use of generational trauma and family shame as a source of horror is discussed, and we talk about how it avoids using grief as horror which is something of a trope at this point.</p> <p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-28446" src="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma1.webp?resize=1067%2C600&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="1067" height="600" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma1-scaled.webp?resize=1067%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1067w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma1-scaled.webp?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma1-scaled.webp?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma1-scaled.webp?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma1-scaled.webp?resize=2048%2C1152&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma1-scaled.webp?resize=370%2C208&amp;ssl=1 370w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma1-scaled.webp?resize=1170%2C658&amp;ssl=1 1170w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma1-scaled.webp?resize=760%2C428&amp;ssl=1 760w, https://i0.wp.com/cinepunx.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/exhuma1-scaled.webp?w=2340&amp;ssl=1 2340w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1067px) 100vw, 1067px" /></p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">Nationalism and nature of national shame is discussed. We talk about the strange hierarchy of Japanese ghosts. We talk about some of the unorthodox and frightening imagery of the film.</p> <p style="font-weight: 400;">            As always thank you for listening and to everyone and anyone who donated on Patreon, checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening and donating<em>. </em>Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>. We would love to hear from you! 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