<description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;This is an preview of the Patreon episode "The Political Economy of Love in Capitalism w/ Kristen Ghodsee." You can listen to our entire 5-part series on Venezuela by subscribing to our Patreon here: &lt;a href= "https://www.patreon.com/upstreampodcast"&gt;https://www.patreon.com/upstreampodcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;As a Patreon subscriber you'll get access to at least one bonus episode a month (usually two or three), our entire back catalog of Patreon episodes, early access to certain episodes, and other benefits like stickers and bumper stickers—depending on which tier you subscribe to. access to bi-weekly bonus episodes ranging from conversations to readings and more. Signing up for Patreon is a great way to make Upstream a weekly show, and it will also give you access to our entire back catalog of Patreon episodes along with stickers and bumper stickers at certain subscription tiers.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;You'll also be helping to keep Upstream sustainable and allowing us to keep this project going.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style= "mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"&gt; &lt;span style= "mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"&gt;  In this episode we're joined by Kristen Ghodsee to discuss the political economy of love in capitalism. Kristen Ghodsee is Professor of Russian and East European Studies and a member of the Graduate Group in Anthropology at the University of Pennsylvania. She is the critically acclaimed author of &lt;em&gt;Everyday Utopia: What 2,000 Years of Wild Experiments Can Teach Us About the Good Life&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Red Valkyries: Feminist Lessons From Five Revolutionary Women&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style= "mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"&gt; &lt;span style= "mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"&gt; The conversation&lt;/span&gt; opens with an exploration of the three components of love and how capitalism co-opts, commodifies, and ultimately destroys them. We explore how different components of love, like attention and affection, are transformed from a use-value to an exchange-value in capitalism and how capitalism transforms and transactionalizes friendship and love. We also talk about the concept of "reciprocal flow" and how this is another component of relationality that is being distorted and corrupted by market relations and the commodification of everything. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Finally, we end the conversation exploring what we can do to fight against the commodification of friendship and love and how we can incorporate activities that facilitate trust, social bonds, and relationality that is not dominated and dictated by capitalist relations of production. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Further resources:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://jacobin.com/2025/12/love-capitalism-value-reciprocal-flow"&gt; "The Political Economy of Love in Capitalism," Kristen R. Ghodsee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kristen-r-ghodsee/why-women-have-better-sex-under-socialism/9781645036364/?lens=bold-type-books"&gt; &lt;em&gt;Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism: And Other Arguments for Economic Independence&lt;/em&gt;, Kristen Ghodsee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Everyday-Utopia/Kristen-R-Ghodsee/9781982190224"&gt; &lt;em&gt;Everyday Utopia What 2,000 Years of Bold Experiments Can Teach Us About the Good Life,&lt;/em&gt; Kristen R. Ghodsee &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.versobooks.com/products/2880-red-valkyries?srsltid=AfmBOopdFKWuiNfQZmEOJlQ9XirxM_laaeFFU4emGzTxlHOce1FA3j6T"&gt; &lt;em&gt;Red Valkyries: Feminist Lessons From Five Revolutionary Women&lt;/em&gt;, Kristen Ghodsee &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.marxists.org/archive/kollonta/1923/winged-eros.htm"&gt;"Make way for Winged Eros: A Letter to Working Youth," Alexandra Kollontai (1923)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/02/american-loneliness-personality-politics/681091/"&gt; "The Anti-Social Century," by Derek Thompson (a diamond in the rough of The Atlantic)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Bowling-Alone-Revised-and-Updated/Robert-D-Putnam/9781982130848"&gt; &lt;em&gt;Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community&lt;/em&gt;, Robert D. Putnam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://milkweed.org/book/braiding-sweetgrass"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge and the Teachings of Plants&lt;/em&gt;, Robin Wall Kimmerer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Serviceberry/Robin-Wall-Kimmerer/9781668072240"&gt; &lt;em&gt;The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natural World&lt;/em&gt;, Robin Wall Kimmerer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Related episodes:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://sites.libsyn.com/435210/post-capitalist-parenting-pt-2-reimagining-the-family-w-kristen-ghodsee"&gt; Post Capitalist Parenting Pt. 2: Reimagining the Family w/ Kristen Ghodsee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://sites.libsyn.com/435210/why-women-have-better-sex-under-socialism-w-kristen-ghodsee"&gt; Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism w/ Kristen Ghodsee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://sites.libsyn.com/435210/everyday-utopia-and-radical-imagination-with-kristen-ghodsee"&gt; Everyday Utopia and Radical Imagination with Kristen Ghodsee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://sites.libsyn.com/435210/dialectical-materialism-w-josh-sykes"&gt; Dialectical Materialism w/ Josh Sykes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://bb336368-b933-4b06-88b6-e51256ac6d81.libsyn.com/stolen-focus-with-johann-hari-in-conversation"&gt; Stolen Focus with Johann Hari&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://sites.libsyn.com/435210/life-beyond-the-clock-with-jenny-odell-in-conversation"&gt; Life Beyond the Clock with Jenny Odell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://bb336368-b933-4b06-88b6-e51256ac6d81.libsyn.com/ep-9-debunking-the-myth-of-homo-economicus-documentary"&gt; Documentary #9: Debunking the Myth of Homo Economicus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://sites.libsyn.com/435210/richard-wilkinson-kate-pickett-the-spirit-level-in-conversation"&gt; The Spirit Level with Richard Wilkinson &amp; Kate Pickett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Upstream is a labor of love—we couldn't keep this project going without the generosity of our listeners and fans. Subscribe to our Patreon at &lt;a href= "https://www.patreon.com/upstreampodcast"&gt;patreon.com/upstreampodcast&lt;/a&gt; or please consider chipping in a one-time or recurring donation at &lt;a href= "https://www.upstreampodcast.org/support"&gt;www.upstreampodcast.org/support&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;For more from Upstream, visit &lt;a href= "https://gate.sc?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.upstreampodcast.org&amp;token=efc9f5-1-1663029755269"&gt; www.upstreampodcast.org&lt;/a&gt; and follow us on &lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/upstreampodcast/"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href= "https://bsky.app/profile/upstreampodcast.bsky.social"&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;. You can also subscribe to us on &lt;a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/upstream/id1082594532"&gt;Apple Podcasts,&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href= "https://open.spotify.com/show/4KwWOMp24P9cVVR6d0i7Zq?si=ec90ca944bcb43cf&amp;nd=1"&gt; Spotify&lt;/a&gt;, or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>

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[TEASER] The Political Economy of Love in Capitalism w/ Kristen Ghodsee

FEB 17, 202615 MIN
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[TEASER] The Political Economy of Love in Capitalism w/ Kristen Ghodsee

FEB 17, 202615 MIN

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This is an preview of the Patreon episode "The Political Economy of Love in Capitalism w/ Kristen Ghodsee." You can listen to our entire 5-part series on Venezuela by subscribing to our Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/upstreampodcast As a Patreon subscriber you'll get access to at least one bonus episode a month (usually two or three), our entire back catalog of Patreon episodes, early access to certain episodes, and other benefits like stickers and bumper stickers—depending on which tier you subscribe to. access to bi-weekly bonus episodes ranging from conversations to readings and more. Signing up for Patreon is a great way to make Upstream a weekly show, and it will also give you access to our entire back catalog of Patreon episodes along with stickers and bumper stickers at certain subscription tiers. You'll also be helping to keep Upstream sustainable and allowing us to keep this project going. In this episode we're joined by Kristen Ghodsee to discuss the political economy of love in capitalism. Kristen Ghodsee is Professor of Russian and East European Studies and a member of the Graduate Group in Anthropology at the University of Pennsylvania. She is the critically acclaimed author of Everyday Utopia: What 2,000 Years of Wild Experiments Can Teach Us About the Good Life, Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism and Red Valkyries: Feminist Lessons From Five Revolutionary Women. The conversation opens with an exploration of the three components of love and how capitalism co-opts, commodifies, and ultimately destroys them. We explore how different components of love, like attention and affection, are transformed from a use-value to an exchange-value in capitalism and how capitalism transforms and transactionalizes friendship and love. We also talk about the concept of "reciprocal flow" and how this is another component of relationality that is being distorted and corrupted by market relations and the commodification of everything. Finally, we end the conversation exploring what we can do to fight against the commodification of friendship and love and how we can incorporate activities that facilitate trust, social bonds, and relationality that is not dominated and dictated by capitalist relations of production. Further resources: "The Political Economy of Love in Capitalism," Kristen R. Ghodsee Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism: And Other Arguments for Economic Independence, Kristen Ghodsee Everyday Utopia What 2,000 Years of Bold Experiments Can Teach Us About the Good Life, Kristen R. Ghodsee Red Valkyries: Feminist Lessons From Five Revolutionary Women, Kristen Ghodsee "Make way for Winged Eros: A Letter to Working Youth," Alexandra Kollontai (1923) "The Anti-Social Century," by Derek Thompson (a diamond in the rough of The Atlantic) Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community, Robert D. Putnam Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge and the Teachings of Plants, Robin Wall Kimmerer The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natural World, Robin Wall Kimmerer Related episodes: Post Capitalist Parenting Pt. 2: Reimagining the Family w/ Kristen Ghodsee Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism w/ Kristen Ghodsee Everyday Utopia and Radical Imagination with Kristen Ghodsee Dialectical Materialism w/ Josh Sykes Stolen Focus with Johann Hari Life Beyond the Clock with Jenny Odell Documentary #9: Debunking the Myth of Homo Economicus The Spirit Level with Richard Wilkinson & Kate Pickett Upstream is a labor of love—we couldn't keep this project going without the generosity of our listeners and fans. Subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/upstreampodcast or please consider chipping in a one-time or recurring donation at www.upstreampodcast.org/support For more from Upstream, visit www.upstreampodcast.org and follow us on Instagram and Bluesky. You can also subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.