Our guest today is Andy Horning from the Elephant Talk podcast. Andy is a fascinating guy – he's two kids and over 13 years into his second marriage, he's been a couple's therapist for more than 15 years, and he's a course leader for the Hoffman Institute. In this episode we talk about everything from pain and loss to how your relationship is your greatest meditation. If you'd like to learn more about Andy, you can find him at his website: https://www.elephanttalk.org/ – definitely check out his podcast. If you love Together, you'll love Elephant Talk. If you'd like to support our program, you can do that at patreon.com/together. Thank you! If you've got questions or comments, or if you just want to connect, you can find on social media. Our facebook page is facebook.com/togethershow Twitter and instagram are both @together_show, My personal twitter handle is @newtonlaw, And you can always email me at [email protected] The music in today's episode is by Blue Dot Sessions, and you can find them at sessions.blue. The show is produced & edited by Charlene Goto with Go-To Productions.