197. The PM Scale Paradox: Rodolfo Cristovão Product Director and Mike Yeardley, VP at Feedzai
The conversation delves into the evolution of product scaling, the pivot to financial institutions, and the transformation of Feedzai. It also explores the learning curve for product managers, the evolution of PMs at Feedzai, the art of saying no, and the core value of Feedzai. The conversation covers topics such as value detection, AI and machine learning in fraud detection, limitations and future of AI in fraud detection, sustainability and evolution of the business model, product as an intelligence engine, data-led product development, agentive AI, cloud infrastructure, transition to cloud infrastructure, transaction risk assessment, emerging risks and challenges in fraud detection, and the role of product managers in fraud detection.TakeawaysProduct scaling through industry pivotEvolution of product management from startup to scale Value DetectionAI and Machine LearningCloud InfrastructureFraud DetectionProduct ManagementData IntelligenceChapters00:00 Introduction to Product Scaling07:14 Evolution of Feedzai13:03 The Evolution of PMs at Feedzai26:39 Saying No and Decision Framework36:30 Core Value of Feedzai44:29 Cloud Infrastructure and Data Residency50:26 Transition to Cloud Infrastructure56:08 Emerging Risks and Challenges in Fraud Detection