A blunt, high-stakes conversation with Gordon Gray on how a “civilization will die” warning turned into a strategic pause—and what it reveals about war, leverage, and global risk.

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524 | Civilization on the Brink? Trump’s Threat, the Stepdown, and the New Geometry of Power

APR 9, 202628 MIN
Target USA Podcast by WTOP

524 | Civilization on the Brink? Trump’s Threat, the Stepdown, and the New Geometry of Power

APR 9, 202628 MIN

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In one of the most volatile stretches of the Iran conflict, a warning came from President Donald Trump that “a whole civilization will die” if escalation continued, followed by a sudden stepdown into a cease-fire framework.In this episode, we sit down with Ambassador Gordon Gray, Kuwait Professor of Gulf and Arabian Affairs at the George Washington University Elliott School of International Affairs, to unpack how we got there.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.