ON THIS GOOD EPISODE MACKIN DOES VERY GOOD AND SAM VENDIG (PRODUCER, SONGWRITER, ARTIST) DROPS ACTUAL WISDOM AND ALSO MACKIN TALKS ON THE SHOW BUT LIKE I SAID IT'S VERY GOOD THANK YOU SO MUCH<br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>