Special guest Mike Essl joins the program. He’s the dean of the Cooper Union School of Art in New York, and we discuss the role and importance of formal education in the design world today. This episode of Presentable is sponsored by: Pingdom: Start monitoring your website performance and availability today, and get instant alerts when an outage occurs or a site transaction fails. Use offer code PRESENTABLE to get 30% off. Offer expires on January 31, 2022, and can be used only once. Guest Starring: Mike Essl Links and Show Notes: Support Presentable with a Relay FM Membership The Cooper Union Mike Essl biography Mike Essl's Website 💥BWHAM💥 (@b_w_h_a_m) on Instagram Mike Essl (@essl) on Twitter