Pastor DZ of Good Hope Missionary Baptist (Houston) joins the Disciplemakers podcast to share how he shifted a traditional, 153-year-old church from an attractional 'churchtainment' model to a disciple-making culture. He discusses raising expectations for membership, making discipleship a requirement, using life groups and digital tools, and investing in leadership to grow spiritually mature believers who make other disciples. They also talk about the National Disciplemaking Forum, practical first steps for leaders wanting to reset their church’s operating system, and the joy and renewed purpose that comes from aligning ministry with Jesus’ call to make disciples.