<p>After I spent an hour or so running down their recent lawsuit against Destiny, I decided to give Ben &amp; Grace Thorp a call. To my surprise, Ben answered the phone. I tried my best to be fair, despite our turbulent history. This is what followed. </p><br><p>From the August 9th, 2025, episode of the Killstream. </p><br><p>Full Killstream Link:</p><p><a href="https://rumble.com/v6xd52m-killstream-bonus-saturday-sound-off-session.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rumble.com/v6xd52m-killstream-bonus-saturday-sound-off-session.html</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>