In this episode of The Innovation Show, Chuck House—legendary HP intrapreneur and author of Permission Denied—joins Aidan McCullen, host of The Innovation Show and a Thinkers50 Innovation Award recipient, to explore the real dynamics behind innovation inside large organizations. House shares how he repeatedly challenged assumptions, defied orders, built high-performing teams, and navigated the "corporate immune system" to create breakthrough technologies such as the logic analyzer and Pisces system. Together, Chuck and Aidan unpack why innovation is resisted, how success blinds leaders to the next paradigm shift, and what intrapreneurs must do to survive and thrive. Brought to you by Kyndryl, this conversation blends deep corporate experience with modern innovation thinking—from one of HP's most impactful engineers and one of the world's leading thinkers on transformation and change. Episode Highlights Why organizations punish failure while preaching innovation The paradox of permission: what leaders say vs. what innovators hear How established success blinds teams to new paradigms Emotional and psychological realities of intrapreneurs How to unlearn, relearn, and escape old mental models Why existing sales forces resist innovative products Hard-earned lessons from HP's logic analyzers & the Pisces project What leaders must do to build systems—not heroes—that drive innovation Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro & Sponsor 00:30 Chuck House returns 00:57 Defiant innovation at HP 01:44 Permission paradox 03:07 Amazon's failure philosophy 03:47 Radical transparency 05:16 Future architecture & vision 06:00 Chuck reflects on his journey 07:47 AMD recruitment story 17:02 Paradigm shifts 19:34 Organizational resistance 22:42 Innovation cycles 32:26 Unlearning & relearning 40:16 The irony of pointing fingers 40:45 Navigating new paradigms 44:18 Challenges of intrapreneurship 44:33 Winning the sales channel 45:09 Sales force resistance 51:44 Understanding real customers 53:08 Innovation vs incrementalism 01:03:03 Rise & fall of logic analyzers 01:08:00 Managing intrapreneurial projects 01:13:06 Quality, collaboration & culture 01:20:34 Closing reflections About the Guest Chuck House is an award-winning engineer, HP Fellow, and author of Permission Denied. His innovations shaped decades of computing and instrumentation, and his perspective on intrapreneurship remains profoundly relevant. About the Host Aidan McCullen is an author, global keynote speaker, innovation consultant, and host of The Innovation Show. A former international rugby player for Ireland, he later moved into transformation roles across media and technology. Aidan is the author of Undisruptable, lectures on emerging technology at Trinity College Dublin, and is recognised by Thinkers50 for his global contribution to innovation and reinvention. https://aidanmccullen.com