Real Talk with Leigh Brown

After facing a life-altering health crisis, Michael Zinskie found himself starting over, personally and professionally. With raw honesty and a touch of humor, he shares how vulnerability, community, and sheer persistence helped him rebuild both his confidence and his business. Tune in for a conversation that might just shift how you think about success, support, and second chances.

Key takeaways to listen for

• Why real estate success requires community, not isolation
• How seizures, fear, and medication almost took Mikey out of the business
• The power of showing up and letting others help you rebuild
• What real vulnerability with clients really looks like
• A wild accusation at a showing that changed how Mikey works forever

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Is a 50-year mortgage really a step toward affordable housing or just a longer path to debt? In this rapid-fire solo episode, I'll break down why this proposed fix might cause more harm than good. Hit play to rethink what "affordable" really means.

Key takeaways to listen for

• Why 50-year mortgages are more about appearances than true affordability
• How policy changes can unintentionally inflate home prices
• What debt "ownership" really looks like over five decades

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What happens when two of real estate's most outspoken truth-tellers stop tiptoeing and start saying the quiet part out loud? Buckle up. Leigh Brown and Rob Hahn dive into the conversations the industry avoids—crime, public safety, fair housing realities, failing cities, the MLS shake-up, and what it really means to be a REALTOR® in a post-settlement era. This crossover episode from Under All Is The Land is raw, unfiltered, and guaranteed to challenge the way you think about your role, your industry, and your duty to the communities you serve. If you care about the future of real estate—or the future of your city—this is the episode you share. 👉 Enjoy the full conversation right here on Real Talk, and then make sure you subscribe to @UnderAllPodcast so you don't miss the bold, uncensored episodes Leigh and Rob release next.

Estate planning isn't just about money, it's about protecting the people you love. In this episode, we sit down with Atty. Lin Wang for a candid conversation about what really happens when families don't plan ahead. From trusts and guardianship to the hidden costs of probate, you'll walk away with questions you didn't know you needed to ask. Listen in to uncover what's at stake and what you can still do about it.

Key takeaways to listen for

• Reasons probate can be more costly than most people realize
• What really drives family conflict after someone dies
• The key difference between revocable and irrevocable trusts
• How trusts can protect your assets from lawsuits or creditors
• Why naming a guardian for your kids is one of the most urgent decisions you can make

About Atty. Lin Wang

Atty. Lin is an experienced attorney specializing in asset planning, including trusts and wills. With over seven years of practice, she works at a law firm licensed in 24 states, providing expert guidance on estate planning, probate avoidance, and asset protection. She is dedicated to helping clients navigate complex family and legal situations, ensuring their assets are managed and transferred according to their wishes with privacy and efficiency.

Connect with Atty. Lin

• Email: [email protected]
• Contact Number: 612-231-2060

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Mike Stubbs went to war at 18 and came back with medals, scars, and stories most never hear. In this episode, he opens up about a moment that changed his life and the decades-long mission that followed, plus we'll shed light on the parts of military service that don't make the history books. Listen in for a raw, real conversation that honors courage, connection, and the fight to be remembered.

Key takeaways to listen for

• What the Purple Heart really means
• Why Mike volunteered for Vietnam and what happened the day he was shot
• The story behind Mike's Silver Star and how it was nearly forgotten
• What it meant to serve as a tunnel rat in Vietnam
• Mike's out-of-body experience that changed everything

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