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The Chuck ToddCast is back! If you're looking for smart, no-nonsense political conversation, you've come to the right place. The Chuck ToddCast goes beyond the headlines, featuring conversations with top reporters, insiders, and newsmakers from D.C. to the heartland. No scripts, no spin—just real discussions about what’s shaping our politics and why it matters.

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Interview Only w/ Heather Ann Thompson - The 1980s Blueprint for Today’s Culture Wars
JAN 28, 2026
Interview Only w/ Heather Ann Thompson - The 1980s Blueprint for Today’s Culture Wars
In this episode of the Chuck ToddCast, historian Heather Ann Thompson discusses her new book “Fear and Fury: The Reagan Eighties, the Bernie Goetz Shootings and the Rebirth” that revisits the 1984 Bernie Goetz subway shooting and explains why it remains a chilling precursor to the racialized fear and political rage shaping America today. Thompson walks through who Goetz was, how he shot four unarmed Black teenagers, and how—without video evidence—the media constructed a vigilante narrative that erased the victims and fueled public support for Goetz despite his own recorded confession. She situates the case in a New York City gripped by crime, austerity, and racial anxiety, arguing that fear was real but deliberately misdirected by sensationalist media, tabloid culture, and political leaders who framed young Black men as the threat while stripping away public resources. The conversation traces how Reagan-era policies, talk radio, and the tabloidification of news helped turn crime into profitable outrage, laying the groundwork for stop-and-frisk, the Central Park Five, and ultimately the politics Donald Trump would later master. Thompson connects the Goetz case to today’s wealth inequality, media groupthink, and deep political divides over racialized violence, showing how these stories are not aberrations but part of a long continuum. The episode is a sobering examination of how fear, race, and media narratives can warp justice—and how understanding that history is essential to understanding where America is now. Get your wardrobe sorted and your gift list handled with Quince. Don't wait! Go to https://Quince.com/CHUCK for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too! Protect your family with life insurance from Ethos. Get up to $3 million in coverage in as little as 10 minutes at https://ethos.com/chuck. Application times may vary. Rates may vary. Thank you Wildgrain for sponsoring. Visit http://wildgrain.com/TODDCAST and use the code "TODDCAST" at checkout to receive $30 off your first box PLUS free Croissants for life! Timeline: (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements) 00:00 Heather Ann Thompson joins the Chuck ToddCast 01:30 Bernie Goetz was an early analog for the white rage we see today 02:30 Who was Bernie Goetz & what is the history of the story? 03:00 NYC felt like a city in crisis during the 80’s 04:00 Goetz shoots four unarmed black teenagers 05:00 There was no footage of the shooting & media shaped the event 06:00 Goetz was celebrated by white New Yorkers as a vigilante 06:45 Goetz gave lengthy video confession & still acquitted on most chargers 08:00 The victims have been completely written out of the story 09:00 Victims were denied compensation by the city’s crime victim fund 10:00 The shooting destroyed the victim’s lives even though they survived 11:45 New York felt like a city on the brink in the 1980’s 12:30 New Yorkers were living in fear of many parts of the city due to crime 13:45 Media clearly made the “threat” young black men 14:30 By 1984, trash was piling up and areas of NYC were underpoliced 15:30 The fear was warranted, but was misdirected by Rupert Murdoch, others 17:30 The Reagan administration doubled down on austerity 18:45 Eventually NYC experienced a renaissance, the “Guiliani miracle” 19:45 Austerity was sold on the idea of the “underserving” & criminal underbelly 20:45 Stop & frisk and other policies pushed underclass further away from Manhattan 21:30 Trump was a beneficiary of these politics & rode them to the White House 22:15 Trump is a creature of the 80’s since that era was best for him 23:30 Trump understood the power of television, fear & race baiting 24:15 Trump sells what the Reagan revolution sold, targeted working class whites 25:00 Impact of the Goetz story on the Central Park 5 story 26:30 The tabloidification of the national media was born out of 80’s NYC 27:30 Talk radio was central in turning crime into high rating media content 28:15 Subway shootings were rare, but everyone feared them 29:30 Reagan’s policies stripped away resources that led to working class crises 30:15 Reagan gutted multiple public programs 31:15 Under Reagan, the tax burden was shifted away from the wealthy 32:00 Similarities between the early 1900’s and early 2000’s  33:15 America is in a wealth inequality crisis & target of misinformation campaign 34:30 Media groupthink was a contributing factor to Bernie Goetz’s acquittal 35:15 Goetz case peeled back the veneer hiding overt racism 36:15 Media sands the edges of stories to avoid controversy over coverage 37:00 Sensationalist, conservative media has become very successful 38:30 Alternative press covered the Goetz story much differently 39:15 Bronx jury awarded one of the victims $43 million 40:00 Goetz shooting was an unhinged story, but shows how we got here 42:00 There are political dividing lines over racialized shootings 43:15 Society meant to aspire to wealth, but live with suspicion & fear on streets 44:00 What’s the thread between the urban stories that you’ve told? 45:00 There was a massive cover up at Attica 45:45 If it wasn’t Goetz, it would have been another similar incident 47:00 How long after an event do you think is the sweet spot for telling story? 49:15 As a society, we don’t have patience for context 49:45 Checking personal bias when reporting a historical event 52:30 What Heather is working on nextSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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62 MIN
Full Episode - Kristi Noem Should Be Fired…But Will She? + The 1980s Blueprint for Today’s Culture Wars
JAN 28, 2026
Full Episode - Kristi Noem Should Be Fired…But Will She? + The 1980s Blueprint for Today’s Culture Wars
In this episode of the Chuck ToddCast, Chuck breaks down the mounting political fallout from a string of fatal and controversial shootings by federal immigration agents in Minneapolis, including the killing of ICU nurse Alex Pretti—an incident that has sparked protests, outrage, and deep questions about federal law-enforcement use of force. Bystander video and independent analysis have sharply contradicted official claims that Pretti posed a threat, amplifying criticism from local officials and national figures alike while the Trump administration has scrambled to contain the damage by removing the Border Patrol commander and sending veteran immigration official Tom Homan to Minneapolis to calm tensions. As Republicans in Congress publicly wrestle with how to respond—and some distance themselves from the administration’s actions—Chuck explores how Trump’s repeated emphasis on which voters supported him personally, rather than addressing the substance of the crisis, is complicating the situation politically. With Minneapolis emerging as a political disaster for Trump, the episode also looks at how Trump’s handling of Kristi Noem and broader GOP infighting could create openings for Democrats, especially as concern grows over civil liberties, federal overreach, and the credibility of government narratives in the face of widespread skepticism and media scrutiny.  Then, historian Heather Ann Thompson discusses her new book “Fear and Fury: The Reagan Eighties, the Bernie Goetz Shootings and the Rebirth” that revisits the 1984 Bernie Goetz subway shooting and explains why it remains a chilling precursor to the racialized fear and political rage shaping America today. Thompson walks through who Goetz was, how he shot four unarmed Black teenagers, and how—without video evidence—the media constructed a vigilante narrative that erased the victims and fueled public support for Goetz despite his own recorded confession. She situates the case in a New York City gripped by crime, austerity, and racial anxiety, arguing that fear was real but deliberately misdirected by sensationalist media, tabloid culture, and political leaders who framed young Black men as the threat while stripping away public resources. The conversation traces how Reagan-era policies, talk radio, and the tabloidification of news helped turn crime into profitable outrage, laying the groundwork for stop-and-frisk, the Central Park Five, and ultimately the politics Donald Trump would later master. Thompson connects the Goetz case to today’s wealth inequality, media groupthink, and deep political divides over racialized violence, showing how these stories are not aberrations but part of a long continuum. The episode is a sobering examination of how fear, race, and media narratives can warp justice—and how understanding that history is essential to understanding where America is now. Finally, Chuck updates his ToddCast Top 5 governor’s seats most likely to flip in 2026, weighs in on the massive looming cuts to the staff at the Washington Post and answers listeners’ questions in the “Ask Chuck” segment. Get your wardrobe sorted and your gift list handled with Quince. Don't wait! Go to https://Quince.com/CHUCK for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too! Protect your family with life insurance from Ethos. Get up to $3 million in coverage in as little as 10 minutes at https://ethos.com/chuck. Application times may vary. Rates may vary. Thank you Wildgrain for sponsoring. Visit http://wildgrain.com/TODDCAST and use the code "TODDCAST" at checkout to receive $30 off your first box PLUS free Croissants for life! Timeline: (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements) 00:00 Chuck Todd’s introduction 01:00 Trump attends Iowa event with “affordability message” 01:45 Trump begins to try to walk back from chaos in Minneapolis 02:30 Greg Bovino removed from border patrol role in Minneapolis 03:15 Trump keeps highlighting that Renee Good’s parents voted for him 04:15 Trump sent Tom Homan to Minneapolis to try & calm things down 05:30 Republicans in congress speak out after killing of Alex Pretti 06:30 Trump signals support for Kristi Noem, but could change his mind 07:30 Resentment from Senate R’s over some cabinet secretaries 09:15 Political infighting could become contagious but Trump will back Miller 11:00 Trump is playing political cleanup, but not firing Noem is a mistake 13:00 Not firing Noem would be a political gift for Democrats 14:00 Trump’s trade policy is creating trade deals for other countries, not us 14:45 Minneapolis creates permission slip for Republicans to distance themselves  15:15 Trump’s stop in Iowa was supposed to be a pivot 16:15 Consumer confidence shows the public behaving like it’s a recession 17:00 Consumer confidence lowest since 2014, worse than during pandemic 18:00 Public doubts the job market & job security 20:00 Trump claims inflation is over, that’s not what the public is feeling 21:15 Iowa ranks 50th in nation for economic growth, worst since the 80’s 22:00 Tariffs have devastated Iowa farmers 23:30 If Iowa goes blue, Democrats will win the house and senate 24:15 Trump’s policies have hurt Iowa more than other states 25:00 Trump’s economic message isn’t resonating 26:00 Trump really messed up his gun politics  27:30 Trump will throw anybody under the bus to protect himself 37:00 Heather Ann Thompson joins the Chuck ToddCast 38:30 Bernie Goetz was an early analog for the white rage we see today 39:30 Who was Bernie Goetz & what is the history of the story? 40:00 NYC felt like a city in crisis during the 80’s 41:00 Goetz shoots four unarmed black teenagers 42:00 There was no footage of the shooting & media shaped the event 43:00 Goetz was celebrated by white New Yorkers as a vigilante 43:45 Goetz gave lengthy video confession & still acquitted on most chargers 45:00 The victims have been completely written out of the story 46:00 Victims were denied compensation by the city’s crime victim fund 47:00 The shooting destroyed the victim’s lives even though they survived 48:45 New York felt like a city on the brink in the 1980’s 49:30 New Yorkers were living in fear of many parts of the city due to crime 50:45 Media clearly made the “threat” young black men 51:30 By 1984, trash was piling up and areas of NYC were underpoliced 52:30 The fear was warranted, but was misdirected by Rupert Murdoch, others 54:30 The Reagan administration doubled down on austerity 55:45 Eventually NYC experienced a renaissance, the “Guiliani miracle” 56:45 Austerity was sold on the idea of the “underserving” & criminal underbelly 57:45 Stop & frisk and other policies pushed underclass further away from Manhattan 58:30 Trump was a beneficiary of these politics & rode them to the White House 59:15 Trump is a creature of the 80’s since that era was best for him 1:00:30 Trump understood the power of television, fear & race baiting 1:01:15 Trump sells what the Reagan revolution sold, targeted working class whites 1:02:00 Impact of the Goetz story on the Central Park 5 story 1:03:30 The tabloidification of the national media was born out of 80’s NYC 1:04:30 Talk radio was central in turning crime into high rating media content 1:05:15 Subway shootings were rare, but everyone feared them 1:06:30 Reagan’s policies stripped away resources that led to working class crises 1:07:15 Reagan gutted multiple public programs 1:08:15 Under Reagan, the tax burden was shifted away from the wealthy 1:09:00 Similarities between the early 1900’s and early 2000’s 1:10:15 America is in a wealth inequality crisis & target of misinformation campaign 1:11:30 Media groupthink was a contributing factor to Bernie Goetz’s acquittal 1:12:15 Goetz case peeled back the veneer hiding overt racism 1:13:15 Media sands the edges of stories to avoid controversy over coverage 1:14:00 Sensationalist, conservative media has become very successful 1:15:30 Alternative press covered the Goetz story much differently 1:16:15 Bronx jury awarded one of the victims $43 million 1:17:00 Goetz shooting was an unhinged story, but shows how we got here 1:19:00 There are political dividing lines over racialized shootings 1:20:15 Society meant to aspire to wealth, but live with suspicion & fear on streets 1:21:00 What’s the thread between the urban stories that you’ve told? 1:22:00 There was a massive cover up at Attica 1:22:45 If it wasn’t Goetz, it would have been another similar incident 1:24:00 How long after an event do you think is the sweet spot for telling story? 1:26:15 As a society, we don’t have patience for context 1:26:45 Checking personal bias when reporting a historical event 1:29:30 What Heather is working on next 1:34:30 Chuck’s thoughts on interview with Heather Ann Thompson 1:35:15 ToddCast Top 5 governor’s seats most likely to flip 1:36:30 #1 Kansas 1:38:15 #2 Iowa 1:40:30 #3 Michigan 1:42:45 #4 Arizona #5 Nevada 1:45:00 The Washington Post announces major cuts to staff 1:45:45 Hard to understand what Bezos’s vision is for the Post 1:47:30 How can you be a local paper & not cover the community? 1:48:45 Post is losing $100m/year but Bezos’s burns tons of cash 1:49:15 Amazon set $75 million on fire for the Melania documentary 1:51:00 If Bezos wanted the Post to succeed he could have invested in it 1:53:15 Bezos should sell the Post rather than gutting it 1:55:15 The Post editorial page has been diminished under Bezos 1:57:00 Hopefully Bezos changes course 1:58:00 Ask Chuck 1:58:15 How long will this dark period of American history last? 2:04:30 At what point does a blatant lie from a politician qualify as fraud? 2:07:00 Chance that an Ossoff win could catapult him to nomination?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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130 MIN
Chuck’s Commentary - Kristi Noem Should Be Fired…But Will She? + If Iowa Goes Blue, Republicans Are COOKED
JAN 28, 2026
Chuck’s Commentary - Kristi Noem Should Be Fired…But Will She? + If Iowa Goes Blue, Republicans Are COOKED
In this episode of the Chuck ToddCast, Chuck breaks down the mounting political fallout from a string of fatal and controversial shootings by federal immigration agents in Minneapolis, including the killing of ICU nurse Alex Pretti—an incident that has sparked protests, outrage, and deep questions about federal law-enforcement use of force. Bystander video and independent analysis have sharply contradicted official claims that Pretti posed a threat, amplifying criticism from local officials and national figures alike while the Trump administration has scrambled to contain the damage by removing the Border Patrol commander and sending veteran immigration official Tom Homan to Minneapolis to calm tensions. As Republicans in Congress publicly wrestle with how to respond—and some distance themselves from the administration’s actions—Chuck explores how Trump’s repeated emphasis on which voters supported him personally, rather than addressing the substance of the crisis, is complicating the situation politically. With Minneapolis emerging as a political disaster for Trump, the episode also looks at how Trump’s handling of Kristi Noem and broader GOP infighting could create openings for Democrats, especially as concern grows over civil liberties, federal overreach, and the credibility of government narratives in the face of widespread skepticism and media scrutiny.  Finally, Chuck updates his ToddCast Top 5 governor’s seats most likely to flip in 2026, weighs in on the massive looming cuts to the staff at the Washington Post and answers listeners’ questions in the “Ask Chuck” segment. Get your wardrobe sorted and your gift list handled with Quince. Don't wait! Go to https://Quince.com/CHUCK for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too! Protect your family with life insurance from Ethos. Get up to $3 million in coverage in as little as 10 minutes at https://ethos.com/chuck. Application times may vary. Rates may vary. Thank you Wildgrain for sponsoring. Visit http://wildgrain.com/TODDCAST and use the code "TODDCAST" at checkout to receive $30 off your first box PLUS free Croissants for life! Timeline: (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements) 00:00 Chuck Todd’s introduction 01:00 Trump attends Iowa event with “affordability message” 01:45 Trump begins to try to walk back from chaos in Minneapolis 02:30 Greg Bovino removed from border patrol role in Minneapolis 03:15 Trump keeps highlighting that Renee Good’s parents voted for him 04:15 Trump sent Tom Homan to Minneapolis to try & calm things down 05:30 Republicans in congress speak out after killing of Alex Pretti 06:30 Trump signals support for Kristi Noem, but could change his mind 07:30 Resentment from Senate R’s over some cabinet secretaries 09:15 Political infighting could become contagious but Trump will back Miller 11:00 Trump is playing political cleanup, but not firing Noem is a mistake 13:00 Not firing Noem would be a political gift for Democrats 14:00 Trump’s trade policy is creating trade deals for other countries, not us 14:45 Minneapolis creates permission slip for Republicans to distance themselves  15:15 Trump’s stop in Iowa was supposed to be a pivot 16:15 Consumer confidence shows the public behaving like it’s a recession 17:00 Consumer confidence lowest since 2014, worse than during pandemic 18:00 Public doubts the job market & job security 20:00 Trump claims inflation is over, that’s not what the public is feeling 21:15 Iowa ranks 50th in nation for economic growth, worst since the 80’s 22:00 Tariffs have devastated Iowa farmers 23:30 If Iowa goes blue, Democrats will win the house and senate 24:15 Trump’s policies have hurt Iowa more than other states 25:00 Trump’s economic message isn’t resonating 26:00 Trump really messed up his gun politics  27:30 Trump will throw anybody under the bus to protect himself 34:45 ToddCast Top 5 governor’s seats most likely to flip 36:00 #1 Kansas 37:45 #2 Iowa 40:00 #3 Michigan 42:15 #4 Arizona #5 Nevada 44:30 The Washington Post announces major cuts to staff 45:15 Hard to understand what Bezos’s vision is for the Post 47:00 How can you be a local paper & not cover the community? 48:15 Post is losing $100m/year but Bezos’s burns tons of cash 48:45 Amazon set $75 million on fire for the Melania documentary 50:30 If Bezos wanted the Post to succeed he could have invested in it 52:45 Bezos should sell the Post rather than gutting it 54:45 The Post editorial page has been diminished under Bezos 56:30 Hopefully Bezos changes course 57:30 Ask Chuck 57:45 How long will this dark period of American history last? 1:04:00 At what point does a blatant lie from a politician qualify as fraud? 1:06:30 Chance that an Ossoff win could catapult him to nomination?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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69 MIN
Interview Only w/ Adam Bhala Lough - Deepfakes, Bunkers, and Billionaires: Inside The AI Arms Race
JAN 26, 2026
Interview Only w/ Adam Bhala Lough - Deepfakes, Bunkers, and Billionaires: Inside The AI Arms Race
Documentary filmmaker Adam Bhala Lough joins the Chuck ToddCast for a provocative, darkly funny, and unsettling conversation about AI, power, and the people building the future faster than anyone can regulate it. Lough unpacks the thinking behind his documentary Deepfaking Sam Altman, exploring why artificial intelligence inspires both awe and terror, how tech elites quietly prepare for social backlash, and why many of the skills we once told young people to master—like coding—may soon be obsolete. From Silicon Valley’s obsession with immortality and bunker-building to the fear that any job done on a computer could disappear within a few years, the discussion confronts what happens when innovation outruns accountability. The episode also dives deep into Sam Altman’s mystique, Silicon Valley’s moral blind spots, and how fear—of China, regulation, or losing dominance—is used to shape public debate around AI. Lough explains how deepfakes are made, why AI-driven scams are about to explode, and what lawmakers fundamentally misunderstand about regulating rapidly evolving technology. Ultimately, this conversation argues that the antidote to AI anxiety isn’t panic or denial—but transparency, literacy, and a serious public reckoning with who controls the tools reshaping human society. Timeline: 00:00 Adam Bhala Lough joins the Chuck ToddCast 02:30 Tech titans know the pitchforks are coming & are building bunkers 03:15 Did you create “Deepfaking Sam Altman” assuming the worst about AI? 05:00 The phrase Artificial Intelligence is great branding, but creates fear 06:15 How did you find funding for the documentary? 06:45 AI was one of the reasons the writer’s guild was protesting 07:30 Kids who grew up learning to code won’t have a job due to AI 08:15 Coding is now a useless skill when it was THE skill to have 10 years ago 10:15 Any job done on a computer could be gone within 3 years 10:45 Teaching critical thinking skills when a machine can do it for you? 13:00 Humans won’t be ok with robots replacing, but may not have a choice 13:30 If AI destroys humanity, it wouldn’t be deliberate 14:15 There’s a theory that AI would keep us around & find a use for us 15:00 Sam Altman has a giant collection of guns & weapons, like a prepper 15:45 Wealth creates a “prepper” mentality 17:00 There’s an obsession Silicon Valley with living forever 17:45 Was trying to interview Sam Altman always the premise of the doc? 18:45 Thought getting an interview with Sam Altman would be easy 19:15 Still haven’t heard from Altman in light of the documentary 20:45 What made you so threatening that Altman avoided you? 22:30 Other tech companies were more open to talking than OpenAI 23:15 Altman uses AI to read and summarize his emails, he doesn’t read them 24:00 Tech CEO’s tend to be antisocial, created platforms to compensate? 24:45 Many created products the world didn’t need just to get rich 26:00 Social media causes problems, but also have positives like Arab Spring 26:45 Totalitarian regimes found a way to weaponize social media 27:45 Chinese documentarian used AI to avoid government crackdown 29:15 Altman uses fear of China’s use of AI to avoid regulation & get investment 30:15 Sam Altman is a Marvel level super villain 30:45 Elon Musk is even more of a villain than Altman 31:15 Altman doesn’t have a personality, Elon has a crazy one 32:00 Google’s Gemini has caught up and surpassed ChatGPT 32:45 Altman could be a flash in the pan, or the next Steve Jobs 34:30 Steve Jobs and Sam Altman share a similar drive 35:45 Apple wouldn’t have been as successful under Wozniak, he’s too nice 37:00 You don’t have to be an asshole to be a successful tech CEO 38:30 Political leaders have given business leaders permission to be awful 39:00 What do you want people to take away from the documentary? 39:45 The best way to cure AI anxiety is to create a conversation about it 40:45 Concerned about legal exposure from the documentary? 41:15 The documentary shows how the deepfake was made 42:30 AI image & video generators should be forced to include a logo 43:15 What should politicians understand about AI regulation? 44:30 AI slop is getting harder than ever to identify as fake 46:15 AI will be an incredible tool for scamming people 47:00 People should have a safeword to avoid deepfake scams 49:15 AI will be very useful in creating archival footage 51:00 AI gets dystopian when you put it into weapons 52:30 What topics are you interested in covering next? 55:00 Terms & conditions that force arbitration is very coercive 57:15 Deepfaking Sam Altman took 18 months to createSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Full Episode - America Is Unraveling Under Trump +  Deepfakes, Bunkers, and Billionaires: Inside The AI Arms Race
JAN 26, 2026
Full Episode - America Is Unraveling Under Trump + Deepfakes, Bunkers, and Billionaires: Inside The AI Arms Race
In this urgent and unsettling episode of the Chuck ToddCast, Chuck argues that America is in the midst of a historic “Great Unraveling,” marked by the collapse of trust, consent, and the basic social contract that has held the country together for generations. He examines a chilling series of events in Minneapolis—two fatal shootings by federal agents in three weeks, including the killing of Alex Pretti, who was legally carrying a firearm—raising profound questions about accountability, constitutional rights, and whether the federal government can still be trusted to tell the truth when video evidence directly contradicts official accounts. As administration officials stumble through indefensible explanations, Chuck connects the domestic breakdown to a broader global rupture: allies like Canada openly describing relations with the U.S. as “ruptured,” the post–World War II rules-based order splintering, science and public health consensus eroding, and political power being wielded through favoritism and fear. The episode paints a stark picture of a country growing weaker, more isolated, and more vulnerable—not because of fate, but because unraveling is a process, and it’s happening in real time. Then, documentary filmmaker Adam Bhala Lough joins the Chuck ToddCast for a provocative, darkly funny, and unsettling conversation about AI, power, and the people building the future faster than anyone can regulate it. Lough unpacks the thinking behind his documentary Deepfaking Sam Altman, exploring why artificial intelligence inspires both awe and terror, how tech elites quietly prepare for social backlash, and why many of the skills we once told young people to master—like coding—may soon be obsolete. From Silicon Valley’s obsession with immortality and bunker-building to the fear that any job done on a computer could disappear within a few years, the discussion confronts what happens when innovation outruns accountability. The episode also dives deep into Sam Altman’s mystique, Silicon Valley’s moral blind spots, and how fear—of China, regulation, or losing dominance—is used to shape public debate around AI. Lough explains how deepfakes are made, why AI-driven scams are about to explode, and what lawmakers fundamentally misunderstand about regulating rapidly evolving technology. Ultimately, this conversation argues that the antidote to AI anxiety isn’t panic or denial—but transparency, literacy, and a serious public reckoning with who controls the tools reshaping human society. Finally, Chuck weighs in on the political disaster that is unfolding for Republicans, hops into the ToddCast Time Machine to draw parallels between modern America and Bloody Sunday in Northern Ireland in the 70’s and answers listeners’ question in the “Ask Chuck” segment. Get your wardrobe sorted and your gift list handled with Quince. Don't wait! Go to https://Quince.com/CHUCK for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too! Protect your family with life insurance from Ethos. Get up to $3 million in coverage in as little as 10 minutes at https://ethos.com/chuck. Application times may vary. Rates may vary. Thank you Wildgrain for sponsoring. Visit http://wildgrain.com/TODDCAST and use the code "TODDCAST" at checkout to receive $30 off your first box PLUS free Croissants for life! Timeline: (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements) 00:00 Chuck Todd’s introduction 01:45 America is going through a “Great Unraveling” 04:45 January 2026 has been a horrendous month in American history 05:45 We’re watching the collapse of consent 06:15 Federal agents involved in 2 fatal shootings in 3 week in Minneapolis 07:00 Alex Pretti was shot 10 times, this was an assassination 07:30 No consequences for agent that shot Renee Good sent a message 08:15 The federal government won’t uphold the law or constitutional rights 09:30 Administration officials make fools of themselves defending this 10:15 Alex Pretti was legally carrying his firearm 10:45 January 6th protestors were also armed 11:45 The federal government is behaving like fascists 12:45 What remains of the social contract? 13:15 Trump’s leadership is destroying everything we knew about America 14:00 Canada’s PM Mark Carney describes relations with U.S. as “ruptured” 14:45 The rules based order in splintering 15:15 TikTok deal was purely favoritism & media alignment for Trump allies 16:15 CDC now discarding science, openly questioning the polio vaccine 17:00 Government shutdown is coming later this week 18:00 100 years of consensus is shattering 19:00 Alex Pretti was carrying, not brandishing his weapon 19:45 Alex Pretti was killed in cold blood   20:30 Thank god there was video, you can’t trust the federal government 21:00 Bystander video contradicts federal government account 21:45 Patel and Noem have no credibility outside of Trump’s base 22:45 Federal agents violated half the bill of rights in one incident 24:30 Middle powers can’t assume alignment with US gives stability 25:30 Canada’s response to Trump is seismic & entirely rational 26:30 The post WW2 order was held together by trust, & that’s been shattered 28:15 Trump’s appointees are making us vulnerable to eradicated diseases 29:30 TikTok will be used by Trump allies for political alignment 30:45 Unraveling isn’t destiny… it’s process 31:30 Trump is making us weaker, more vulnerable and poorer 32:45 We’re losing our country… literally 33:30 We can’t believe anything the federal government says 40:00 Adam Bhala Lough joins the Chuck ToddCast 42:30 Tech titans know the pitchforks are coming & are building bunkers 43:15 Did you create “Deepfaking Sam Altman” assuming the worst about AI? 45:00 The phrase Artificial Intelligence is great branding, but creates fear 46:15 How did you find funding for the documentary? 46:45 AI was one of the reasons the writer’s guild was protesting 47:30 Kids who grew up learning to code won’t have a job due to AI 48:15 Coding is now a useless skill when it was THE skill to have 10 years ago 50:15 Any job done on a computer could be gone within 3 years 50:45 Teaching critical thinking skills when a machine can do it for you? 53:00 Humans won’t be ok with robots replacing, but may not have a choice 53:30 If AI destroys humanity, it wouldn’t be deliberate 54:15 There’s a theory that AI would keep us around & find a use for us 55:00 Sam Altman has a giant collection of guns & weapons, like a prepper 55:45 Wealth creates a “prepper” mentality 57:00 There’s an obsession Silicon Valley with living forever 57:45 Was trying to interview Sam Altman always the premise of the doc? 58:45 Thought getting an interview with Sam Altman would be easy 59:15 Still haven’t heard from Altman in light of the documentary 1:00:45 What made you so threatening that Altman avoided you? 1:02:30 Other tech companies were more open to talking than OpenAI 1:03:15 Altman uses AI to read and summarize his emails, he doesn’t read them 1:04:00 Tech CEO’s tend to be antisocial, created platforms to compensate? 1:04:45 Many created products the world didn’t need just to get rich 1:06:00 Social media causes problems, but also have positives like Arab Spring 1:06:45 Totalitarian regimes found a way to weaponize social media 1:07:45 Chinese documentarian used AI to avoid government crackdown 1:09:15 Altman uses fear of China’s use of AI to avoid regulation & get investment 1:10:15 Sam Altman is a Marvel level super villain 1:10:45 Elon Musk is even more of a villain than Altman 1:11:15 Altman doesn’t have a personality, Elon has a crazy one 1:12:00 Google’s Gemini has caught up and surpassed ChatGPT 1:12:45 Altman could be a flash in the pan, or the next Steve Jobs 1:14:30 Steve Jobs and Sam Altman share a similar drive 1:15:45 Apple wouldn’t have been as successful under Wozniak, he’s too nice 1:17:00 You don’t have to be an asshole to be a successful tech CEO 1:18:30 Political leaders have given business leaders permission to be awful 1:19:00 What do you want people to take away from the documentary? 1:19:45 The best way to cure AI anxiety is to create a conversation about it 1:20:45 Concerned about legal exposure from the documentary? 1:21:15 The documentary shows how the deepfake was made 1:22:30 AI image & video generators should be forced to include a logo 1:23:15 What should politicians understand about AI regulation? 1:24:30 AI slop is getting harder than ever to identify as fake 1:26:15 AI will be an incredible tool for scamming people 1:27:00 People should have a safeword to avoid deepfake scams 1:29:15 AI will be very useful in creating archival footage 1:31:00 AI gets dystopian when you put it into weapons 1:32:30 What topics are you interested in covering next? 1:35:00 Terms & conditions that force arbitration is very coercive 1:37:15 Deepfaking Sam Altman took 18 months to create 1:41:30 Chuck’s thoughts on interview with Adam Bhala Lough 1:43:30 Elected Republicans trying to distance from Trump’s DHS 1:45:00 Marjorie Taylor-Greene argues the small c conservative position 1:46:00 MTG uses hypothetical shooting of a MAGA by Biden’s DOJ 1:48:00 Trump’s defenders try to blame Trump’s advisors rather than Trump 1:49:00 The administration is trampling the Bill of Rights 1:50:00 Minneapolis is a political disaster for Trump 1:51:00 Conservative pundits are pitching a Minneapolis off-ramp 1:52:45 Greg Bovino is trying invoke violence in the way he dresses 1:54:00 Trump’s coalition is breaking apart 1:55:45 ToddCast Time Machine 1:56:30 January 30th, 1972 - Bloody Sunday in Northern Ireland 1:57:45 British army turned into an occupying force 1:58:30 Unarmed civilians were shot by soldiers 1:59:00 Bloody Sunday ended the belief that the government could be neutral 2:00:00 When the state lies about violence, radicalism ensues 2:01:30 U2’s anthem about Bloody Sunday is expression of moral fatigue 2:02:30 Trump is the only person that can de-escalate and he refuses to 2:04:00 States tell themselves they are restoring order, consequences are permanent 2:04:45 Trust collapsed in Northern Island & happening now in Minneapolis 2:05:45 Ask Chuck 2:06:15 Agents involved in shootings weren’t new recruits? 2:11:00 How naive were we to think “it can’t happen here” How do we navigate it?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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