Ep. 232: FINNEAS | The Long Game of a Music Career
DEC 16, 2025114 MIN
Ep. 232: FINNEAS | The Long Game of a Music Career
DEC 16, 2025114 MIN
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<p>Today’s guest didn’t just enter the music industry — he grew up inside it. He isn’t just a Grammy-winning producer or a respected solo artist. He’s one of the rare creatives who’s built a career rooted in loyalty, advocacy, and taste — while learning in public and evolving in real time.</p><br><p>And The Writer Is… FINNEAS!</p><br><p>In this episode, he breaks down:</p><p>Growing up in the industry without losing your footing</p><p>The quiet flaw baked into today’s music industry — and the one trait he’s seen in every truly exceptional artist</p><p>Loyalty over leverage — and why relationships still matter</p><p>Advocating for artists when you already have a seat at the table</p><p>Learning as you go without pretending you have it all figured out</p><p>This one is grounded and essential for anyone trying to build something that actually lasts.</p><br><p>A special thank you to our sponsors... Our lead sponsor, NMPA aka the National Music Publisher's Association. Your support means the world to us!</p><p>And <a href="https://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCb8xLPa5RP8TnCsU7E5ASKQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> @splice </a> the best sample library on the market, period.</p><br><p>Chapters</p><p>0:00:00 Teaser </p><p>0:02:37 What FINNEAS Would Change About the Music Industr</p><p>0:07:40 “What Do You Do?” Identity & Being Multihyphenate</p><p>0:08:54 Why taste beats momentum </p><p>0:10:51 FINNEAS & Ashe </p><p>0:12:51 From Workaholism to Efficiency</p><p>0:14:17 Tools, Shortcuts & Speed in the Studio</p><p>0:16:13 Him and Billie and Their Creative Differences</p><p>0:20:11 Stage Fright, SNL & Performing Under Pressure </p><p>0:24:23 Writing Songs for Film vs Albums</p><p>0:27:49 Writing “What Was I Made For?</p><p>0:30:46 Writing Honest Lyrics in LA:</p><p>0:32:48 Parenting, Legacy & Keeping Ego Out of the House</p><p>0:36:42 Creativity and Parenting</p><p>0:38:47 Homeschooling, Childhood & Creative Freedom</p><p>0:41:46 Make your kids work with adults</p><p>0:44:42 When You're Inspired... Collaborate With Your Influences</p><p>0:46:30 Artists FINNEAS Would Love to Work With</p><p>0:48:46 How Not to Chase Trends: Why reference points should be old, weird, and far away </p><p>0:50:02 NMPA Ad</p><p>0:50:42 Splice Ad</p><p>0:51:30 Favorite Albums to Listen to Deeply</p><p>0:53:06 Writing with Billie, Honesty, Family & Creative Trust</p><p>0:55:55 Claudia, Love, Partnership & Sustaining Ambition</p><p>1:00:37 The 20% Rule</p><p>1:02:00 The 'Lowest Point of His Career' and His Personal Victory From It</p><p>1:04:57 Separating Your Work From Your Worth</p><p>1:06:00 The Barometer of Success For A Solo Artist</p><p>1:06:40 Doing The Apple TV Sound</p><p>1:08:14 Not Comparing His Success With Billie, New Album, Knowing When to Pivot</p><p>1:11:04 Repeating Success... Birds of a Feather, Taste as a Long-Term Advantage</p><p>1:15:00 Signing Writers</p><p>1:17:55 Why Some Artists Plateau</p><p>1:21:11 Publishing Deals, Reversion, and Leverage.. Bad Deals with Good People and Good Deals with Bad People</p><p>1:24:33 Avoiding burnout in a high-output career </p><p>1:28:01 Writing 'Lonely' for Justin Bieber with Benny Blanco</p><p>1:31:14 Aging in the Industry... Collaborating with Ashe</p><p>1:39:08 Big Songs On Deluxe Albums</p><p>1:42:50 Writing for Prompts and Film</p><p>1:45:01 What Still Excites Him About Music</p><p>1:43:41 Are You Happy?</p><p>1:52:37 Separating The Art From The Artist</p><p>1:51:58 Building something that lasts without losing yourself</p><br><p>Hosted by Ross Golan</p><p>Produced by Joe London and Jad Saad</p><p>Edit by Jad Saad</p><p>Post Production by Pratik Karki</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>