An exclusive sit-down with the now-former CBS News correspondent.
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<description>&lt;p&gt;An exclusive sit-down with the now-former CBS News correspondent.&lt;/p&gt;
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An exclusive sit-down with the now-former CBS News correspondent. 


Scott Pelley on His Firing and the ‘Massacre’ at ’60 Minutes’

The 2026 World Cup is about to descend on North America — spread across three countries, with 48 teams, and 104 games, and with billions of fans across the globe tuning in to watch the biggest sporting event on the planet.
Today, Tariq Panja, global soccer correspondent for The New York Times, breaks down everything you need to know about this year’s tournament — the arrival of historic first-timers, like Curaçao, the aging legends like Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, who are making their final appearances, and the eye-watering ticket prices that are driving fans to financial extremes just to book a seat.
On Today’s Episode:
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/tariq-panja" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tariq Panja</a>, is a global sports correspondent for the New York Times.
Background Reading:
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/16/sports/soccer/world-cup-migrant-workers.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The World Cup’s Forgotten Team</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/06/world/americas/2026-world-cup-ticket-prices-argentina.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">World Cup or Bust: Going Into Debt, Sleeping 10 to a Room and Layovers for Days</a>
Photo credit: Hannah Mckay/Reuters. 
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<description>&lt;p&gt;The 2026 World Cup is about to descend on North America — spread across three countries, with 48 teams, and 104 games, and with billions of fans across the globe tuning in to watch the biggest sporting event on the planet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today, Tariq Panja, global soccer correspondent for The New York Times, breaks down everything you need to know about this year’s tournament — the arrival of historic first-timers, like Curaçao, the aging legends like Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, who are making their final appearances, and the eye-watering ticket prices that are driving fans to financial extremes just to book a seat.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;On Today’s Episode:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/tariq-panja" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tariq Panja&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, is a global sports correspondent for the New York Times.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Background Reading:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/16/sports/soccer/world-cup-migrant-workers.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;The World Cup’s Forgotten Team&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/06/world/americas/2026-world-cup-ticket-prices-argentina.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;World Cup or Bust: Going Into Debt, Sleeping 10 to a Room and Layovers for Days&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Photo credit: Hannah Mckay/Reuters. &lt;/p&gt;
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The 2026 World Cup is about to descend on North America — spread across three countries, with 48 teams, and 104 games, and with billions of fans across the globe tuning in to watch the biggest sporting event on the planet.

Today, Tariq Panja, global soccer correspondent for The New York Times, breaks down everything you need to know about this year’s tournament — the arrival of historic first-timers, like Curaçao, the aging legends like Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, who are making their final appearances, and the eye-watering ticket prices that are driving fans to financial extremes just to book a seat.

Everything You Need to Know About the World Cup

A real estate investor’s pursuit of cheap land has prompted a lawsuit against a compound in Arkansas that will test whether civil rights laws can stop a whites-only town from existing in America.
Today, Debra Kamin, a New York Times investigative reporter, discusses the community and why its members are convinced that in this political climate, no one is going to stop them.
Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/debra-kamin" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Debra Kamin</a>, an investigative reporter focusing on wealth, power and corruption for The The New York Times.
Background reading: A <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/20/realestate/return-to-the-land-discrimination-lawsuit.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">whites-only community in Arkansas</a> has been sued for discrimination.
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<description>&lt;p&gt;A real estate investor’s pursuit of cheap land has prompted a lawsuit against a compound in Arkansas that will test whether civil rights laws can stop a whites-only town from existing in America.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today, Debra Kamin, a New York Times investigative reporter, discusses the community and why its members are convinced that in this political climate, no one is going to stop them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Guest: &lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/debra-kamin" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Debra Kamin&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, an investigative reporter focusing on wealth, power and corruption for The The New York Times.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Background reading: A &lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/20/realestate/return-to-the-land-discrimination-lawsuit.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;whites-only community in Arkansas&lt;/a&gt; has been sued for discrimination.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Photo: Whitten Sabbatini for The New York Times&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For more information on today’s episode, visit &lt;a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;nytimes.com/thedaily&lt;/a&gt;. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. &lt;/p&gt;
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A real estate investor’s pursuit of cheap land has prompted a lawsuit against a compound in Arkansas that will test whether civil rights laws can stop a whites-only town from existing in America.

Today, Debra Kamin, a New York Times investigative reporter, discusses the community and why its members are convinced that in this political climate, no one is going to stop them.

One Town's Blueprint for Resegregating America

President Trump has begrudgingly accepted that artificial intelligence requires oversight and on Tuesday signed an executive order asking companies to voluntarily give the government access to new models before they’re released to the public.
Tripp Mickle, who covers Silicon Valley, discusses the battle in the White House over the issue and how it played out over the last few weeks. 
Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/tripp-mickle" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tripp Mickle</a>, who reports about Silicon Valley for The New York Times from San Francisco.
Background reading: 
<ul>
 <li>Mr. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/02/technology/trump-executive-order-ai.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Trump signed an executive order</a> seeking oversight of A.I. models.</li>
 <li><a href="http://nytimes.com/2026/06/03/business/dealbook/trump-ai-pivot.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Here’s what’s driving</a> Mr. Trump’s big A.I. pivot.</li>
</ul>
Photo: Doug Mills/The New York Times
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<description>&lt;p&gt;President Trump has begrudgingly accepted that artificial intelligence requires oversight and on Tuesday signed an executive order asking companies to voluntarily give the government access to new models before they’re released to the public.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tripp Mickle, who covers Silicon Valley, discusses the battle in the White House over the issue and how it played out over the last few weeks. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Guest: &lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/tripp-mickle" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tripp Mickle&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, who reports about Silicon Valley for The New York Times from San Francisco.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Background reading: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;Mr. &lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/02/technology/trump-executive-order-ai.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;Trump signed an executive order&lt;/a&gt; seeking oversight of A.I. models.&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://nytimes.com/2026/06/03/business/dealbook/trump-ai-pivot.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;Here’s what’s driving&lt;/a&gt; Mr. Trump’s big A.I. pivot.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Photo: Doug Mills/The New York Times&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For more information on today’s episode, visit &lt;a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;nytimes.com/thedaily&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. &lt;/p&gt;
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Even the White House, which has been friendly to the artificial intelligence industry, is finding that it needs greater oversight of powerful new models.

How Trump Was Persuaded to Regulate A.I.

At the front lines of the Ebola crisis in Central Africa, badly equipped health workers with little outside support are losing the fight against one of the worst outbreaks in history.
Declan Walsh, a New York Times correspondent covering the outbreak, takes us to the epicenter of the virus and explains why, so far, its spread has been so difficult to stop.
Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/declan-walsh" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Declan Walsh</a>, the chief Africa correspondent for The New York Times.
Background reading: 
<ul>
 <li>Inside the Ebola epicenter, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/30/world/africa/ebola-epicenter-congo.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the virus rages with little to stop it</a>.</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/17/world/africa/what-to-know-ebola-africa.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Here’s what to know</a> about the Ebola outbreak.</li>
</ul>
Photo: Arlette Bashizi for The New York Times
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<description>&lt;p&gt;At the front lines of the Ebola crisis in Central Africa, badly equipped health workers with little outside support are losing the fight against one of the worst outbreaks in history.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Declan Walsh, a New York Times correspondent covering the outbreak, takes us to the epicenter of the virus and explains why, so far, its spread has been so difficult to stop.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Guest: &lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/declan-walsh" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Declan Walsh&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, the chief Africa correspondent for The New York Times.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Background reading: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;Inside the Ebola epicenter, &lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/30/world/africa/ebola-epicenter-congo.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;the virus rages with little to stop it&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/17/world/africa/what-to-know-ebola-africa.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;Here’s what to know&lt;/a&gt; about the Ebola outbreak.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Photo: Arlette Bashizi for The New York Times&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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At the center of the Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo, the front line is completely overwhelmed.

Why the Ebola Outbreak Has Been Nearly Impossible to Stop

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