The scientist talks to David Marchese about how to overcome the “soft” climate denial that keeps us buying junk.

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The scientist talks to David Marchese about how to overcome the “soft” climate denial that keeps us buying junk.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.