<p>Nate Bartram and Jonah Aragon have been advocating for privacy for a long time. Their sites, The New Oil and Privacy Guides, have a ton of fabulous resources for anyone interested in guarding their data and defending their digital rights. Ever wonder what it&#8217;s like being a privacy advocate in an increasingly privacy-hostile world? Today, I&#8217;ll take you behind the scenes of these sites and into the brains of two top-notch privacy warriors.</p> <h1 class="wp-block-heading">Interview Notes</h1> <ul class="wp-block-list"> <li>Privacy Guides: <a href="https://www.privacyguides.org/">https://www.privacyguides.org/</a>&#160;</li> <li>The New Oil: <a href="https://thenewoil.org/">https://thenewoil.org/</a>&#160;</li> <li>Critical Thinking 101: <a href="https://ghost.thenewoil.org/critical-thinking-101/">https://ghost.thenewoil.org/critical-thinking-101/</a> </li> <li>This Week in Privacy podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-week-in-privacy/id1726826455">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-week-in-privacy/id1726826455</a>&#160;</li> <li>Privacy Advocate Toolbox: <a href="https://www.privacyguides.org/en/activism/">https://www.privacyguides.org/en/activism/</a>&#160;</li> <li>Smartphone privacy guides: <a href="https://www.privacyguides.org/videos/2026/02/04/smartphone-security-course-lesson-1-beginners-2/">https://www.privacyguides.org/videos/2026/02/04/smartphone-security-course-lesson-1-beginners-2/</a>&#160;</li> </ul> <h1 class="wp-block-heading">Further Info</h1> <ul class="wp-block-list"> <li>My book: <a href="https://fdsd.me/book">https://fdsd.me/book</a>&#160;</li> <li>My newsletter: <a href="https://fdsd.me/newsletter">https://fdsd.me/newsletter</a>&#160;</li> <li>Support the mission: <a href="https://fdsd.me/support">https://fdsd.me/support</a>&#160;</li> <li>Give the gift of privacy and security: <a href="https://fdsd.me/coupons">https://fdsd.me/coupons</a>&#160;</li> <li>Get your Firewalls Don’t Stop Dragons Merch! <a href="https://fdsd.me/merch">https://fdsd.me/merch</a>&#160;</li> </ul> <h1 class="wp-block-heading">Table of Contents</h1> <ul class="wp-block-list"> <li>0:00:18: Intro</li> <li>0:02:11: Why did you get into privacy?</li> <li>0:07:44: What&#8217;s the most enduring privacy myth?</li> <li>0:14:13: Do you find people dislike the answer &#8220;it depends&#8221;?</li> <li>0:16:50: How would you describe your target audience?</li> <li>0:22:00: How do you evaluate privacy products?</li> <li>0:27:59: What products have you unrecommended and why?</li> <li>0:34:27: What are major privacy red flags?</li> <li>0:43:09: What product do you use that you do not recommend to others?</li> <li>0:48:05: How will you handle age checks or repeal of Section 230?</li> <li>0:55:09: Who do you look to for privacy advice?</li> <li>1:04:22: What&#8217;s next for you guys?</li> <li>1:08:30: Wrap-up</li> <li>1:10:46: Patron podcast preview</li> <li>1:11:24: Looking ahead</li> </ul>