<p>In this conversation recorded at the Futures of Finance Retreat, Prof Veena Dubal and Prof Rohan Grey discuss the implications of new regulatory regimes for poor consumers and working-class people as would-be investors in crypt-currency and &quot;employees&quot; of ride-share companies. Rohan talks about his research and policy proposals on a responsible, transformative approach to regulating digital currencies - &quot;we do need a world that values anonymity as a primary concern&quot;. Veena explains Uber, Lyft and ride sharing companies are experimenting on Black and brown bodies with totalising new automated technologies of algorithmic discrimination. As Veena argues, &quot;more terrifying than ChatGPT is the automation of labour extraction, the automation of labour surveillance, and the automation of dispossession.&quot;</p> <p> </p>