RealDealChat / Lessons from Real Estate Investors

Brent Kesler explains infinite banking, how he paid off nearly $1M in debt, and why the wealthy recycle money using the Money Multiplier method.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss welcomes back Brent Kesler, founder of The Money Multiplier, to break down one of the most misunderstood wealth strategies in real estate and investing: infinite banking.Brent shares how he and his wife eliminated $984,711 of third-party debt in just 39 months—without changing cash flow, working harder, or taking on more risk. He explains how specially designed whole life policies allow investors to recycle and recapture money they’re already spending, turning expenses into long-term wealth.The conversation covers the origins of the infinite banking concept (Nelson Nash), why many advisors misunderstand it, how real estate investors use it to fund deals repeatedly, and why mindset traps like Arrival Syndrome and Parkinson’s Law keep people broke.If you want a proven system the wealthy have used for over 250 years—and a way to fund real estate without losing control of your money—this episode delivers clarity and conviction.👉 Learn more: TheMoneyMultiplier.com👉 Build better systems with AI & automation: https://realdealcrew.com⏱️ Timestamps00:00 – $984K in debt & the decision that changed everything01:15 – What is infinite banking (simple explanation)03:00 – Why the wealthy recycle money04:40 – Nelson Nash & the origin of the strategy06:15 – Why most advisors don’t understand this07:50 – Adding ONE step to your finances09:30 – Using infinite banking for real estate deals11:00 – Car example: getting the car and the money12:45 – Real investor case study (Phoenix example)15:00 – Paying off $1M in debt in 39 months17:00 – Why people don’t believe it at first18:45 – Whole life vs “life insurance” myths20:15 – Tax-free growth & keeping control23:45 – Arrival Syndrome: why people tune out26:30 – Parkinson’s Law & lifestyle inflation29:45 – Why raises don’t create wealth31:50 – Mindset, systems & mentors33:40 – Biggest time saver: recorded systems36:00 – Final advice for investors#InfiniteBanking #MoneyMultiplier #BrentKesler #RealDealChat #RealEstateInvesting #WealthBuilding #PassiveIncome #PrivateMoney #CashFlow #FinancialFreedom #InvestorMindsetRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon MusicFacebookTwitterInstagramSUPPORT THE SHOW!If you are new to Wealthfront, and open a Cash Account, you'll get a 0.50% APY boost for 3 months.Open an Automated Index Investing Account or Automated Bond Portfolio, you'll earn $5,000 managed for free.Get $10 and Reduce Your Business Costs by Shopping at AppSumo • https://bit.ly/reiappsumoGet $10 Towards Your First Purchase at Drop • https://drop.com/?referer=3DC729

Paul do Campo explains why real estate investors lose deals in follow-up, how value-based messaging works, and why human connection beats automation alone.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Paul do Campo, founder of REI Omni Drip, to break down one of the most overlooked profit centers in real estate investing: follow-up.Paul explains why most investors overspend on lead generation while leaving massive money trapped inside their CRM. He shares how value-based follow-up, storytelling, and multichannel communication (email, SMS, and direct mail) dramatically increase seller responses—without sounding salesy or spammy.The conversation dives deep into:Why “Are you still interested in selling?” no longer worksHow stories outperform sales scriptsWhy email open rates are down—and what to do insteadHow multichannel follow-up revives cold and unresponsive leadsWhy AI tools are becoming commoditized—and how to stay humanThe real reason investors stop following up (hint: emotions)This episode is a masterclass in follow-up psychology, systems, and long-term deal conversion for wholesalers, flippers, and real estate investors.👉 Learn more about Paul’s system: REIOmniDrip.com👉 Want help implementing follow-up, AI, and automation? Visit https://realdealcrew.com⏱️ Timestamps00:00 – Why sellers avoid the open market01:00 – Why follow-up is the real opportunity02:00 – Lead gen vs follow-up (where deals are lost)03:30 – Why “hot, warm, cold” sequences don’t work05:00 – Value-based follow-up vs sales pressure06:30 – Using stories to drive seller responses08:00 – Email open rates are down—now what?09:30 – Why multichannel follow-up wins11:00 – How many touches sellers really need13:00 – Aggressive early follow-up (done right)15:00 – Emotions sabotaging investor follow-up17:00 – CRM gold most investors ignore19:00 – SMS myths, compliance & reputation21:30 – AI follow-up is becoming commoditized23:00 – Why human connection will win long-term25:30 – Rapid Fire: work ethic, books & tools#RealEstateInvesting #LeadFollowUp #WholesalingRealEstate #PaulDoCampo #RealDealChat #REIOmniDrip #RealEstateMarketing #InvestorSystems #AIForRealEstate #SellerLeads #AutomationRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon MusicFacebookTwitterInstagramSUPPORT THE SHOW!If you are new to Wealthfront, and open a Cash Account, you'll get a 0.50% APY boost for 3 months.Open an Automated Index Investing Account or Automated Bond Portfolio, you'll earn $5,000 managed for free.Get $10 and Reduce Your Business Costs by Shopping at AppSumo • https://bit.ly/reiappsumoGet $10 Towards Your First Purchase at Drop • https://drop.com/?referer=3DC729

Jack McColl shares how entrepreneurs can access $50K–$250K in 0% interest business credit, build capital the right way, and scale without giving up equity.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Jack McColl, entrepreneur and founder of Credit Stacking, to break down how investors and business owners can get $50K–$250K in 0% interest business credit—even with no business credit history.Jack shares how he discovered business credit seven years into entrepreneurship, why personal credit unlocks huge business limits, and how he used $500K in approvals to build multiple successful companies. He explains exactly how to structure applications, build banking relationships, avoid common mistakes, and leverage 0% cards safely for real estate, e-com, or any cash-flowing venture.Jack also discusses partnership lessons, how to avoid giving up equity too early, how to use business lines of credit to extend your 0% period, and how automations + virtual assistants helped him scale.This is one of the most actionable credit episodes you’ve ever published.What You’ll LearnHow Jack got $500K in business credit approvalsWhy personal credit matters more than business creditHow to build banking relationships with the right institutionsHow to avoid equity partnerships by using creditRisks + rewards of leveraging business credit the right wayHow 0% cards actually work (12–18 months)How to extend 0% periods using a business line of creditHow to structure your first applicationsThe biggest credit mistakes people makeHow to use VAs and automations to scale your business📍 Get Jack’s training → go.creditstacking.com/podcast💡 Want AI-powered systems for your REI business? → RealDealCrew.comTIMESTAMPS00:00 – How Jack discovered business credit01:17 – From 19-year-old entrepreneur to 8 ventures02:26 – Why most entrepreneurs don’t know about business credit03:29 – How he got $500K in approvals04:38 – Myths about debt & leveraging 0% credit05:47 – Why personal credit matters more than business credit07:26 – How to get $50K–$250K in 0% credit limits08:50 – Why big banks beat local banks for 0% funding10:02 – Early partnership failure & buying out partners12:08 – The 4 ways to fund a business13:26 – Why 0% cards beat loans & equity14:32 – Extreme sports, mindset & pushing limits16:15 – Why timelines create execution & reduce procrastination18:11 – The 4 ingredients to freedom: product, money, systems, people19:42 – Automations, VAs & eliminating repetitive tasks21:30 – Extending 0% periods using business lines of credit23:12 – Advanced strategies to rotate credit & reset the 0% clock25:20 – Why you must prepare capital before you need it27:00 – How parents can help kids build credit29:20 – Rapid Fire: lies, lessons, books & tools#BusinessCredit #CreditStacking #JackMcColl #EntrepreneurFunding #RealDealChat #0PercentCredit #AccessToCapital #RealEstateFunding #ScalingBusiness #VirtualAssistants #AutomationRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon MusicFacebookTwitterInstagramSUPPORT THE SHOW!If you are new to Wealthfront, and open a Cash Account, you'll get a 0.50% APY boost for 3 months.Open an Automated Index Investing Account or Automated Bond Portfolio, you'll earn $5,000 managed for free.Get $10 and Reduce Your Business Costs by Shopping at AppSumo • https://bit.ly/reiappsumoGet $10 Towards Your First Purchase at Drop • https://drop.com/?referer=3DC729

Alan Franks reveals why so many business owners stay broke, how to build wealth outside your company, and why financial planning must include real estate.In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack Hoss sits down with Alan Franks, founder of Empowered Money and Business Planning Institute, to discuss why so many entrepreneurs stay broke — despite high revenue, long hours, and endless sacrifice.Alan explains why entrepreneurs often treat their business like a “baby,” reinvesting everything back in and starving their personal finances. He lays out the framework he uses to help business owners build real wealth, diversify across real estate, capital markets, and business equity, and structure operations so the company can run without the owner.He shares lessons from the 2008 crisis, why comprehensive financial planning matters more than ever, the truth about generational wealth (it’s NOT the money), how to balance liquidity and long-term growth, and why today’s economy demands a plan that includes real estate, investing, AND a sellable business.This is one of your most actionable “business + finance + real estate” episodes.What You’ll LearnWhy so many business owners stay broke despite big revenueHow to split revenue into operating, owner comp, taxes & wealth-buildingWhy financial planning must include real estateThe power of fee-based planning vs financial product salesThe “Ready → Aim → Fire” framework for new investorsWhy liquidity risk is the real danger in real estateHow to evaluate today’s economy (rates, tariffs, inflation)Why owning a sellable business = real generational wealthHow to avoid over-reinvesting in your companyHow SOPs, documentation & AI-driven systems free the ownerHow to build personal wealth outside the business📍 Learn more: Empowered-Money.com📍 Business planning & valuations: BusinessPlanningInstitute.com💡 Scale your real estate business with AI & systems → RealDealCrew.comTIMESTAMPS00:00 – Why so many business owners stay broke01:01 – Alan’s start during the 2008 financial crisis02:18 – The trap of financial “selling” vs real planning03:00 – Why advisors ignore real estate (and why he doesn’t)04:00 – The Ready → Aim → Fire investing method05:35 – W2 vs business owners: surprising differences06:45 – Business owners sacrificing everything07:45 – The framework: ops, owner comp, taxes, wealth-building09:15 – Generational wealth is NOT the money11:00 – Wisdom > dollars: lessons from his father12:30 – Limiting beliefs from the 2008 crash13:50 – The 3 wealth engines: real estate, markets, business15:30 – Real estate’s real risk: liquidity16:00 – Why investors shouldn’t be “real estate only”17:48 – The economy now: tariffs, inflation, and rates20:00 – Why high rates aren’t just the Fed21:00 – For the first time: renting may beat owning24:00 – Housing prices, stagnation & affordability26:23 – The Business Planning Institute27:30 – Why documentation is the real bottleneck29:00 – SOPs, checklists & building sellable operations32:00 – Training a custom AI chatbot for internal SOPs34:00 – How AI will remake business operations36:00 – The pain of writing a book (Empowered Money)37:30 – Marketing lessons & book launches38:00 – Rapid Fire: lies, advice, books, tools#BusinessOwner #FinancialPlanning #AlanFranks #RealDealChat #WealthBuilding #EntrepreneurMindset #RealEstateInvesting #Operations #GenerationalWealth #AIForBusiness #MoneyManagementRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon MusicFacebookTwitterInstagramSUPPORT THE SHOW!If you are new to Wealthfront, and open a Cash Account, you'll get a 0.50% APY boost for 3 months.Open an Automated Index Investing Account or Automated Bond Portfolio, you'll earn $5,000 managed for free.Get $10 and Reduce Your Business Costs by Shopping at AppSumo • https://bit.ly/reiappsumoGet $10 Towards Your First Purchase at Drop • https://drop.com/?referer=3DC729

Jack Hoss shares the top 5 tools real estate investors use to manage rentals remotely—covering cameras, smart locks, software, and automation.In this episode of RealDealCast, Jack Hoss reveals his top 5 tech tools for managing rental properties remotely. These are the exact systems he uses daily to monitor properties, communicate with tenants, and save hours every week.From Blink cameras and smart Wi-Fi door locks to Asana, TurboTenant, and his own RealDealCrew platform, Jack explains how each tool helps him manage rentals efficiently — even in rural areas or during harsh winter months.You’ll learn:How to use Blink cameras for property oversight and securityWhy smart locks make tenant access safer and simplerHow to manage maintenance tasks and contractors in AsanaWhy TurboTenant is perfect for leases, rent collection, and maintenance ticketsHow RealDealCrew automations streamline communication and follow-upWhether you own one rental or manage a full portfolio, these tools can help you build a hands-off system that frees your time for more deals — not more stress.YouTube Link: https://youtu.be/LvPZ92ebUFU👉 Ready to automate your real estate operations? Get a free system audit at https://realdealcrew.com.Timestamps00:00 – Intro: My top 5 tools for managing rentals remotely00:25 – Blink cameras for security & property monitoring01:30 – Smart Wi-Fi door locks for tenant access02:45 – Asana for contractor & task management04:10 – TurboTenant for leases, maintenance, and communication05:40 – RealDealCrew automations for instant responses06:45 – Closing thoughts & how to get a free system audit#RealEstateInvesting #RentalProperty #RealEstateTechnology #RealEstateTools #LandlordTips #RemotePropertyManagement #AutomationForInvestors #PropertyManagementSoftware #RealDealCast #RealDealCrew #AIForRealEstate #SmartHomeTech #RentalAutomation #JackHossRealDealCrew.comWe empower real estate investors by optimizing your business processes through customized automation and system integration. From lead management to deal closure, we help you build a scalable and efficient operation. Learn more at RealDealCrew.comLIKE • SHARE • JOIN • REVIEWWebsiteApple PodcastsYouTubeYouTube MusicSpotifyAmazon MusicFacebookTwitterInstagramSUPPORT THE SHOW!If you are new to Wealthfront, and open a Cash Account, you'll get a 0.50% APY boost for 3 months.Open an Automated Index Investing Account or Automated Bond Portfolio, you'll earn $5,000 managed for free.Get $10 and Reduce Your Business Costs by Shopping at AppSumo • https://bit.ly/reiappsumoGet $10 Towards Your First Purchase at Drop • https://drop.com/?referer=3DC729