In this episode, I sit down with Luke Urick, the Executive Director, and Bryon Gustafson, the Deputy Director of the Montana Veterans Project, a Great Falls–based nonprofit that helps veterans rediscover purpose, camaraderie, and resilience through veteran-led therapeutic adventure trips in the Montana backcountry. We explore how challenging wilderness experiences can help veterans reconnect with themselves, their fellow warriors, and the mission that doesn't simply end when military service does. We dig into why traditional approaches sometimes fall short, and how shared physical challenge, communication, and hard work in nature can catalyze healing in ways that matter long after the trip ends. This is a conversation about more than PTSD or buzzwords — it's about purpose, belonging, and veterans building new life chapters with intention and grit. Montana Vet Program - https://www.mtvetprogram.org Today's Sponsors: Betterwild: Betterwild is offering listeners up to 40% off your order at https://www.betterwild.com/CLEAREDHOT Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial and start selling today at https://www.shopify.com/clearedhot