<description>&lt;p&gt;Dr. Kathyrn Ridout (Kaiser Permanente Northern California) joins Dr. Dixon and Dr. Berezin to &lt;a href= "https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ps.20240372" target= "_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;discuss implanting measurement-based care&lt;/a&gt; for solo and small-group practitioners.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://psychiatryonline.org/pb-assets/podcasts/transcripts/PS/PS_Ridout_October_2025_transcript.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Transcript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 00:33&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; Ridout interview&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 00:57&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; Background&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 02:56&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; Measurement-based care&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 04:32&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; Large integrated systems versus small group and solo practitioners&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 06:25&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; Evidence for the utility of measurement-based care&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 07:37&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; Communication and engagement between clinicians and patients&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 10:22&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; Edge cases that don't quite fit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 13:44&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; Beyond just the PHQ-9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 15:00&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; Moving beyond the measurement of just symptoms&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 16:04&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; What should providers be looking for in measurements?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 17:27&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; Computerized adaptive testing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 19:08&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; Artificial intelligence&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 22:23&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; When the measurement doesn't match&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #333333;"&gt; 26:31&lt;span style= "mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; "Base truth"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0in; background: white;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; 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77: Considerations for Implementation of Measurement-Based Care: Focus on Solo and Small-Group Practitioners

OCT 31, 202532 MIN
Psychiatric Services From Pages to Practice

77: Considerations for Implementation of Measurement-Based Care: Focus on Solo and Small-Group Practitioners

OCT 31, 202532 MIN

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Dr. Kathyrn Ridout (Kaiser Permanente Northern California) joins Dr. Dixon and Dr. Berezin to discuss implanting measurement-based care for solo and small-group practitioners. Transcript 00:33 Ridout interview 00:57 Background 02:56 Measurement-based care 04:32 Large integrated systems versus small group and solo practitioners 06:25 Evidence for the utility of measurement-based care 07:37 Communication and engagement between clinicians and patients 10:22 Edge cases that don't quite fit 13:44 Beyond just the PHQ-9 15:00 Moving beyond the measurement of just symptoms 16:04 What should providers be looking for in measurements? 17:27 Computerized adaptive testing 19:08 Artificial intelligence 22:23 When the measurement doesn't match 26:31 "Base truth" Subscribe to the podcast here. Check out Editor's Choice, a set of curated collections from the rich resource of articles published in the journal. Sign up to receive notification of new Editor's Choice collections. Browse other articles on our website. Be sure to let your colleagues know about the podcast, and please rate and review it wherever you listen to it. Listen to other podcasts produced by the American Psychiatric Association. Follow the journal on Twitter.