Better Words
Better Words

Better Words

Michelle Gately & Caitlin Toohey

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A podcast for readers who want to know the stories behind the pages 📖 Join Caitlin and Michelle, two book nerds who bring you in-depth conversations about writing and publishing from those on the inside. Grab a cuppa and get ready to chat books.

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Our 2025 favourites
JAN 5, 2026
Our 2025 favourites
We were lucky enough to record this episode together in a studio at Vanishing Point Records in Chesterfield. We kick off with a wrap-up of our reading stats for the year: how many books and pages, the moods and re-reads.*Accessed through our work/from the publisher2024 debut book:Caitlin: The Heir Apparent by Rebecca Armitage*Michelle: Confessions by Catherine Airey*Non-fiction:Michelle: John and Paul: A Love story in Songs by Ian Leslie Caitlin: The Third Gilmore Girl by Kelly BishopAustralian book:Michelle: Consider Yourself Kissed by Jessica StanleyCaitlin: Until the Red Leaves Fall by Alli Parker*Romance: Michelle: Swept Away by Beth O’Leary Caitlin: An Academic Affair by Jodi McAlisterFiction: Michelle: The Offing by Benjamin MyersCaitlin: Ever Blessed by Olivia O’Flynn*Young Adult:Michelle: Red Flags by Sophie Jo*Caitlin: Grumpy Darling by Alexandra Moody*Most surprising:Caitlin: Fake by Stephanie WoodMichelle: The Lamb by Lucy RoseFavourite cover:Caitlin: A Smart Girls Guide to Second Chances by Steph Vizard*Michelle: Sad Girl Hours by Anna Zoe Quirke*Recommendation for each other:Michelle: The Wedding People by Alison EspachCaitlin: *Until the Red Leaves Fall by Alli ParkerWorth the hype:Michelle: Atmosphere by Taylor Jenkins ReidCaitlin: Sunrise on the Reaping by Suzanne CollinsBooks on our radar for 2026:Yesteryear by Caro Claire Burke Motherfaker by Anna Brook-MitchellThe Ending Writes Itself by Evelyn Clarke*Esther is Now Following You by Tanya Sweeny*Heartstopper volume 6 by Alice OsemanThe Silent Appeal by Janice HallettCaller Unknown by Gillian McAllisterWhatever Happened to Madeline Stone by Louise O’NeillFruit Fly by Josh SilverThis Book Made Me Think of You by Libby PageSurvival Show by Juno DawsonHopeless Romantics by Mhairi McFarlaneOur Perfect Storm by Carley FortuneFavourite TV:Michelle: The AmericansOutrageousSupernaturalDaddy IssuesCaitlin:Fresh Off the BoatSeverenceHeated RivalryFavourite films:Michelle: Civil WarThe Thursday Murder ClubLily & Stitch (live action)Downton Abbey: The FinaleCaitlin:September 5Wicked: For GoodThelmaFavourite podcasts:Michelle: Just The GistBig Small Talk ‘Big Talk’ episodes Last Podcast on the Left episodes on Heinrich Himmler and The Great Molasses FloodCaitlin:Pulp KitchenGood HangHamish & AndyBut for your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode:Ready Player One by Ernest ClineThe Beatles by Hunter DaviesKatabasis by RF KuangThe Book Thief by Markus ZusakWings: The Story of a Band Rivals by Jilly CooperThe Dry Heart by Natalia GinzburgPicnic at Hanging Rock by Joan LindseyThe Job Share by Sophie JoHeartbreak Era by Sophie JoAll Fours by Miranda JulyLiterary Legends Reading Challenge The GoldmansThe Stringer: The Man Who Took the Photo (film)Zootopia 2Celebrity TraitorsSpotlightThe Rest is EntertainmentInside Out 2Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word.We've ⁠got a Substack publication⁠ now! On the last day of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. ⁠Come say hi!⁠Connect with us on Instagram: ⁠@betterwordspod
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97 MIN
Aussie rom-com recommendations bonanza and Wings: The Story of a Band on the Run
NOV 24, 2025
Aussie rom-com recommendations bonanza and Wings: The Story of a Band on the Run
In this episode, Caitlin gives you dozens of recommendations for brilliant Aussie rom-coms. While Michelle chats briefly about Paul McCartney's new book, Wings: The Story of a Band on the Run. For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode:Man on the Run (upcoming Amazon documentary)Wings Deluxe Collection on vinyl (also available to stream on Spotify)Daisy Jones and the Six by Taylor Jenkins ReidThat Island Feeling by Karina May (listen to our interview with Karina here)The Matchmaker by Saman ShadThe Cicada House by Ella Ward*Ever Blessed by Olivia O'Flynn*Rival Darling and Grumpy Darling by Alexandra Moody* An Academic Affair by Jodi McAlister (listen to our previous chat with Jodi here)What Did I Miss by Holly Brunnbauer*A Smart Girl's Guide to Second Chances by Steph Vizard*Love Overdue by Ali Berg and Michelle Kalus (listen to Caitlin's full rec here)Love and Other Scores by Abra Pressler (Caitlin's full rec)Ghosted by Amy Hutton (listen to our interview with Amy here)Drive Me Crazy by Lizzie Dent*Sex Lives of Married Women by Saman ShadJenna Lo Bianco (The Italian Marriage, Love and Rome, Venetian Lessons in Love, and Love, Al Dente)Natalie Murray (Lights, Camera, Love and Love, Just In)Anita Heiss (Not Meeting Mr Right)Engaged Apparently by Amy AndrewsThe Wedding Forecast by Nina Kenwood (listen to our interview with Nina)Enjoyed this episode? Share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've got a Substack publication now! On the last day of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. Come say hi! Connect with us on Instagram: @betterwordspod
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Book Club: The Names by Florence Knapp
OCT 29, 2025
Book Club: The Names by Florence Knapp
In this episode, we're discussing The Names by Florence Knapp. Unlike review episodes, book club chats will include some spoilers (although we'll still try to keep things vague). About the book:It is 1987, and in the aftermath of a great storm, Cora sets out with her nine-year-old daughter to register the birth of her son. Her husband intends her to follow a long-standing family tradition and call the boy after him. But faced with the decision, Cora hesitates, questioning whether it is right for her child to share his name with generations of domineering men. Her choice in this moment will shape the course of their lives.Seven years later, her son is Bear, a name chosen by his sister, and one that will prove as cataclysmic as the storm from which it emerges. Or he is Julian, the name his mother set her heart on, believing it will give him the opportunity to become his own person. Or he is Gordon, named after his father and raised in his image - but is there still a chance to break the mould?This is the story of three names, three versions of a life and the infinite possibilities that a single decision can spark. It is the story of one family and how love endures, no matter what fate has in store.*Michelle received a copy from the publisherHere's everything else we mentioned in this episode:Sliding Doors (film)Lessons in Chemistry by Bonnie GarmusConsider Yourself Kissed by Jessica StanleyThe Treasures by Hariette EvansEnjoyed this episode? Share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've got a Substack publication now! On the last day of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. Come say hi! Connect with us on Instagram: @betterwordspod
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41 MIN
Seasonal reading recommendations (for summer or autumn)
OCT 23, 2025
Seasonal reading recommendations (for summer or autumn)
In this episode, we're chatting about seasonal reading: what we're looking for and what it means to us. Then we share some recommendations for the summer ahead in the Southern Hemisphere and autumn vibes for our Northern Hemisphere pals. Enjoy! For your convenience, here's everything we mentioned in this episode:Australia's Top 100 books countdownBoy Swallows Universe by Trent DaltonThe Book Thief by Markus ZusakThe Hottest 100 Australian songsGravity Let Me Go by Trent DaltonThe Offing by Benjamin MyersLove and Other Scores by Abra PresslerFive Bush Summers and Love Clare FletcherThat Island Feeling by Karina MaySwept Away by Beth O’LearyOne Golden Summer by Carley FortuneThe Summer I Turned Pretty seriesKatabasis by R.F KuangHungerstone by Kat DunnThe Lamb by Lucy RoseCarmilla by J Sheridan Le FanuDracula by Bram StokerThe Treasures by Harriet EvansBuckeye by Patrick RyanSad Girl Hours by Anna Zoe Quirke (this was gifted by the publisher)Our previous interview with Anna about Something to Be Proud OfRewitched and Uncharmed by Lucy Jane WoodThe Dead Romantics by Ashley PostonMake Me A Monster by Kalynn BayronEnjoyed this episode? Share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've got a Substack publication now! On the last day of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. Come say hi! Connect with us on Instagram: @betterwordspod
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38 MIN