I Could Never Do That

What does it mean to truly live with intention? Joe Gagnon—ultra-endurance athlete, CEO, and high-performance coach—believes the answer isn't found in chasing the next big achievement, but in aligning your daily choices with your deeper purpose. In this conversation, Joe shares insights from his book Living Intentionally, a bold guide to finding clarity and resilience in a chaotic world. Drawing from his experiences leading innovative companies and pushing his physical limits across the globe, Joe reveals how embracing discomfort, building supportive habits, and balancing ambition with presence can unlock a more grounded and meaningful life. If you've ever felt stuck on autopilot, burned out, or searching for something more, Joe's wisdom will help you reconnect with what matters most and take small, intentional steps toward lasting transformation. Key Takeaways Living intentionally starts with defining your purpose. Failure is an opportunity for growth and clarity. Grit, grace, and groundedness are essential for fulfillment. Small, daily habits can create powerful transformation. You are responsible for your own happiness, impact, and legacy. Badwater 135 Buy Living Intentionally Subscribe to Joe's Substack Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett Save 15% on Plantstrongfoods.com with code: CARRIE15 "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)

What does it take to run 200 miles through mountains, forests, and volcanic blast zones — and still find joy in every step? In this episode, Elizabeth Warner shares her incredible journey at the Bigfoot 200 ultramarathon, a nonstop 200-mile race around Mount St. Helens. From prevention-first strategies to late-night hallucinations, emotional lows, and breathtaking highs, she takes us inside the mental, physical, and emotional toolkit that got her to the finish line healthy, strong, and grateful. We dig into her why — the deeper motivation behind choosing bold, audacious goals — and how she broke a massive challenge into small, meaningful pieces of progress. Along the way, you'll hear about the importance of crew support, mantras that carried her through the toughest climbs, and what it really means to do hard things. What You'll Learn in This Episode: Why setting a "prevention-first" goal can be more powerful than chasing speed The role of joy, gratitude, and mantras in tackling massive goals How small habits and mindset shifts during training pay off on race day Lessons from the highs, lows, and surprising moments of a 200-mile journey How ultrarunning mirrors the risks, choices, and growth we face in everyday life If you've ever wondered what it takes to tackle something bigger than yourself — or you're looking for inspiration for your own "Bigfoot 200" — this episode will leave you believing in relentless forward progress. Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett Save 15% on Plantstrongfoods.com with code: CARRIE15 "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)

Carrie Barrett welcomes the remarkable Shannon Hogan, an inspiring figure in the world of ultra-endurance sports and the author of the newly released book, The Unforgiving Hours: The Grit, Resilience, and Perseverance at the Heart of Endurance Sports. Hogan, a former pro mountain biker, ultra-runner, open water swimmer, and avid adventurer, shares her insights on the mindset required to tackle numerous extreme athletic challenges, featuring stories and lessons from a diverse cast of lesser-known yet extraordinary athletes. They discuss the importance of community support, resilience, and the joys of discomfort, showcasing stories of athletes who have achieved the extraordinary. With themes of personal growth and perseverance, this episode encourages listeners to embrace their own challenges and explore the limits of their potential where "will becomes stronger than skill." This book will ignite your endurance spirit and help you discover the unthinkable achievements awaiting just beyond your comfort zone. Purchase The Unforgiving Hours on Amazon or wherever books are sold Read more about Shannon and her book in The Seattle Times Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett Save 15% on Plantstrongfoods.com with code: CARRIE15 "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)

Understanding the transformative power of adopting new habits is paramount in our journey toward healing and personal growth, but we're often misguided in developing new habits thinking we need to do something big, drastic or "all at once." We're caught up in the desire to "break" habits before they break us. What if there was a different way to think about habit change? What if you asked yourself, "How Can I Heal Myself Today?" Dr. Laurie Marbas, MD, MBA is a double board-certified family medicine and lifestyle medicine physician. She emphasizes the notion that instead of merely attempting to break detrimental habits, we should focus on healing them through awareness and intentionality. By doing so, we can cultivate a nurturing relationship with ourselves and create sustainable change that is both manageable and profound. Dr. Marbas shares the significance of developing microhabits—small, actionable steps that can be easily integrated into our daily routines—as a way of becoming our owne "habit healer." This episode serves not only as a guide to personal growth but as an invitation to redefine our relationship with our habits in a more loving and supportive manner. Laurie Marbas, MD Website Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett Save 15% on Plantstrongfoods.com with code: CARRIE15 "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)

If you've listened to music, let's say in the last 30 years, then you're likely familiar with my guest today, but not in the way you may think. Gary Burr is a legendary songwriter and vocalist who is behind hit songs for artists like Kelly Clarkson, Kenny Chesney, Lady A, The Oak Ridge Boys, Tim McGraw, Reba McEntire, Juice Newton, Christine Aguilera, Garth Brooks, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Carole King, and Ringo Starr…and seriously…that's the tip of the iceberg here. He's had 14 #1 hits in total (so far), 24 top 10s, and 32 top 40 hits to his name - a master of the 4-minute story arc known as a song. But, while I could talk to him for years about his songwriting career, I reached out to him about something else — his foray into fiction. On July 5th, 2024, Gary is releasing his first novel called, Reunion - A Rock-n-Roll Fairy Tale and it is his take on the question…"What if?" What if John Lennon wasn't assassinated? Could they ever come together again and play as a band? And, as a reader, can you let your imagination even go there? I talk to Gary about the process of writing a fairy tale novel. How is it different (or similar) to writing songs? How did he take four of the most famous people in history and script an alternative story? Why tackle someone like the Beatles? Did he know from the outset how it would end? And, most importantly — what does Ringo (who Gary has worked with for the past 20 years) think of this fairy tale? We often think about "what ifs" in our own lives and it is a fascinating idea to explore. Order Reunion - A Rock-n-Roll Fairy Tale GaryBurr.com Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett Save 15% on Plantstrongfoods.com with code: CARRIE15 "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)