The Extramilest Podcast

Thanks to Heavenly Heat Saunas and Somnos Lab for sponsoring this video! Get 6% off your sauna with code FLO at https://www.heavenlyheatsaunas.com/discount/FLO | Get 10% off your Cooling Sleep System with code FLO at https://somnuslab.com. Sarah Hall is one of the fastest American marathon runners in history, running 2:20 in her late 30s and continuing to compete at an elite level into her 40s. She is a mother of 4 and married to marathon legend Ryan Hall. In this conversation, she shares key lessons on marathon training, running longevity, mental strength, failure, and how to enjoy the process of becoming a stronger, healthier runner. Subscribe and hit the bell to see new videos: https://youtu.be/en4w0-RpWgk Chapters: 0:00 — Intro 1:28 — Heavenly Heat Saunas Sponsorship 2:36 — Writing For the Love of the Grind 5:08 — 30 years of running lessons 8:57 — The most common runner mistakes 13:26 — How running can become a form of service 16:05 — Strength training, Ryan Hall, and trails 20:08 — Somnus Lab Sponsorship 21:05 — The London Marathon 28:05 — Staying calm under pressure 32:34 — How Sarah thinks about failure 38:00 — Training intensity and intuition 41:55 — Rest, pizza, and underfueling 44:25 — Protecting your energy 48:56 — Female-specific advice for runners 52:24 — Running form and efficiency 55:48 — Race recovery done right 57:45 — Self-massage and pre-run bodywork 1:00:54 — The STEPS Foundation and running as service 1:04:38 — What still drives Sarah Hall 1:08:30 — How runners can get unstuck 1:10:05 — What success as a runner actually means 1:12:23 — Advice Sarah would give her younger self 1:15:10 — Where to find Sarah and her book 1:15:35 — How to become a stronger, healthier, happier athlete FIND SARAH HALL: ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/Sarahall3 LINKS AND TOOLS MENTIONED: ► For the Love of the Grind: https://amzn.to/4sQ5opG ► Side Kick Scraping Tool: https://sidekicktool.com/sarahall ► Heavenly Heat Saunas (Code: FLO for 6% off): https://heavenlyheatsaunas.com ► Somnus Lab (Code: FLO for 10% off): https://somnuslab.com ► The STEPS Foundation: https://www.thesteps-foundation.org FIND FLORIS GIERMAN: ► Running Breakthroughs Book: https://florisgierman.com ► Personal Best Coaching Program: https://www.skool.com/personalbest ► Podcast: https://extramilest.com/podcast ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785 ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman ► Extramilest Website: https://extramilest.com ► Path Projects: https://pathprojects.com ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW: A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches, and health experts on how to become a stronger, healthier, and happier athlete. Learn more about our running coaching program at https://www.pbprogram.com Affiliate Disclosure: Some links above are affiliate links. I may earn a small commission at no extra cost to you. Subscribe and hit the bell to see new videos: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT #runningtips #marathontraining #runningmotivation #endurancetraining #marathonrunner #womensrunningcommunity #running

Thanks to Heavenly Heat Saunas and Somnos Lab for sponsoring this video! Get 6% off your sauna with code FLO at https://www.heavenlyheatsaunas.com/discount/FLO | Get 10% off your Cooling Sleep System with code FLO at https://somnuslab.com. Ryan Hall is the first American to run a Sub 2:05 marathon. After retiring from pro running, Ryan took up weightlifting & running coaching. In round 2 of our conversation, we discuss strength training for runners, injury prevention, trail running and more in much detail. Watch this full video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/lHCA5AxPgb0 Chapters: 0:00 — Master your mind, master your running 0:55 — Introducing Ryan Hall 1:28 — Heavenly Heat Saunas Sponsorship 2:42 — Morning routine, meditation, and body awareness 4:15 — What kind of meditation works best for Ryan 8:50 — How to release tension in the body 11:53 — Meditation, lifting, and staying present 15:12 — Following curiosity from road running to trail adventures 18:42 — Advice for road runners getting into trail running 21:40 — How to become a more well-rounded athlete 25:47 — Trail running, self-trust, and staying calm 31:56 — Electrolyte strategy 36:17 — Strength training: Build power, stay injury-free 45:28 — When to push and when to back off 47:47 — Nutrition for gaining muscle 52:16 — Tracking calories, protein, and meal prep 56:22 — Fueling with carbs, fats, and protein 59:25 — Cooling strategies 1:03:45 — How to start strength training 1:07:01 — Why a simple gym program helps beginners 1:09:42 — Hitting plateaus and small gains 1:11:29 — Ryan's current goals and measuring fitness 1:13:15 — Where to find Ryan and his foundation 1:17:34 — How to become a more efficient runner 1:19:15 — Why jump rope is great for runners 1:23:14 — How to Become a Stronger, Happier, Healthier Athlete FIND RYAN HALL HERE: ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanhall3 ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/ryanhall3 ► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ryanhall3 ► Website: https://blog.ryanandsarahall.com LINKS & TOOLS MENTIONED ► Round 1 Extramilest Show with Ryan Hall on Strength Training: https://youtu.be/5EugD_uoBzw ► Ryan Hall and Floris Gierman running 50k in the Grand Canyon: https://youtu.be/owYvOOx4x2M ► The Hall Steps Foundation: https://www.facebook.com/TheHallStepsFoundation ► Run Free Training: https://runfreetraining.com ► Run the Mile You're In - (book) by Ryan Hall: https://amzn.to/3XlDzav ► My Personal Best Running Club, Free 7 day Trial: https://www.skool.com/personalbest ► My new book Running Breakthroughs, also as Audio book: https://geni.us/runningbreakthroughs YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE: ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman ► Podcast: https://extramilest.com/podcast ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785 ► Extramilest Website: https://extramilest.com ► Path Projects Website: https://pathprojects.com Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases." Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way. ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW: A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete. More info about our new running coaching program can be found at https://www.pbprogram.com Subscribe and hit the bell to see new videos: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT Thanks to Heavenly Heat Saunas and Somnos Lab for sponsoring this video: Get 6% off your sauna with code FLO at https://www.heavenlyheatsaunas.com/discount/FLO Get 10% off your Cooling Sleep System with code FLO at https://somnuslab.com.

Thanks to LMNT for sponsoring this video. Get a free sample pack with any purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/flo Kerry Ward and I discuss what really holds runners back and how to push through it. Kerry shares powerful stories from his races, lessons on saying yes to new challenges, and why the hard moments are actually the ones that matter most. For those who've ever struggled to stay consistent, felt like quitting mid-run, or wondered how to become mentally stronger. Watch this full video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/wqv8pOcmtCc Chapters: 0:00 — The mindset that gets you through any run 0:59 — LMNT sponsorship 1:58 — Personal Best Program 2:10 — Running Breakthroughs book 2:27 — Meet Kerry and what holds recreational runners back 6:32 — How to handle low points in a race day 13:24 — The science of not giving up (rat study) 19:26 — Kerry's YouTube journey 22:40 — Check PB Program 23:29 — Embracing the low points and why it matters 31:14 — Being gentler with yourself in training 36:28 — Awareness, presence, & staying connected in the moment 37:53 — How to practice gratitude on the run 41:07 — Why does cold exposure build mental toughness? 45:01 — The power of running with others 48:13 — Advice for runners who feel too old or too slow 55:56 — Saying yes to new challenges & Kerry's first Ironman 1:02:52 — How to say yes more often 1:06:00 — Kerry's advice to his younger self 1:12:19 — Growth through experience and discomfort 1:16:52 — How runners can use visualization for training and racing 1:20:30 — Saying yes before you feel ready 1:26:03 — How to Become a Stronger, Happier and Healthier Athlete 1:29:18 — How to find your running tribe FIND KERRY WARD: ► Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@FullTiltWard ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kerryward LINKS & TOOLS MENTIONED ► Personal Best Running Club, Free 7 day Trial: https://www.skool.com/personalbest ► My new book Running Breakthroughs, also as Audio book: https://geni.us/runningbreakthroughs ► Wes Plate Cocodona 250 2021: https://youtu.be/p8we_9JpKg0 ► Kerry Ward Cocodona 250 2021: https://youtu.be/h_Lkp5zhcO4 ► Path Projects: https://pathprojects.com ► Extramilest Episode with Courtney Dauwalter: https://youtu.be/OTgwIEAN3B4 YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE: ► Free 7 Day Trial For Our New Personal Best Running Club: https://www.pbprogram.com ► Buy my new book Running Breakthroughs: https://geni.us/runningbreakthroughs ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman/ ► Extramilest Website: https://extramilest.com ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785 ► Path Projects Website: https://pathprojects.com Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases." Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way. ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW: A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete. More info about our new running coaching program can be found at https://www.pbprogram.com Subscribe and hit the bell to see new videos: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT

Thanks to Bear Mattress for sponsoring this video. Get 40% off your Bear mattress at https://www.bearmattress.com/floris using code Floris. Another incredible episode with Coach Scott Johnston. He is back for Round 2 after our first episode reached over 140,000 YouTube views in just a few weeks. We dive deeper into Zone 2 training, common mistakes runners make, VO₂ max myths, recovery, and how to balance intensity and volume for long-term progress without burning out. Watch this full video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDg4NAEKQO8 Chapters: 0:00 – The truth about zone 2 training 1:00 – Training for the Uphill Athlete 1:20 – BEAR mattress sponsorship 2:40 – What people get wrong about zone 2 training 10:10 – MAF training explained (180 – age) 14:11 – What people get wrong about high-intensity training 23:18 – Introducing our new Personal Best Running Club 24:07 – Recovery times by training zone 28:27 – How Jakob Ingebrigtsen runs double threshold sessions 34:50 – Balancing volume, intensity, and priorities 37:14 – Overtraining signs and recovery debt 47:45 – Motivation, body signals, and when to stop 51:40 – How to do run-walk training in zone 2 55:40 – How to measure progress in run-walk training 57:12 – Sample run-walk training week 59:22 – Guidelines for beginners starting easy training 1:02:04 – How to do cross-training during injury 1:05:12 – Lever treadmill tool (injury recovery) 1:07:23 – Returning after injury or time off 1:13:20 – Training in heat and adjusting effort 1:18:58 – Does aerobic threshold improve over time? 1:20:58 – Breathing vs heart rate for intensity 1:24:00 – Training at altitude (heart rate adjustments) 1:25:35 – Where to find Scott, his books, & programs 1:27:03 – Final advice for recreational runners to improve without burnout FIND SCOTT JOHNSTON ► Website: https://evokeendurance.com/ ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coach_scott_johnston/ ► Evoke Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evokeendurance/ ► Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/evokeendurance/ ► Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evokecast/id1652132598 ► Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hEgBO6OHjnya5S6CWL024 ► Training for the New Alpinism Book: https://a.co/d/056KjXT1 ► Training for the Uphill Athlete Book: https://a.co/d/00NXdpdR YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE: ► Our New Personal Best Running Coaching Program: https://www.pbprogram.com/ ► Buy my new book Running Breakthroughs: https://geni.us/runningbreakthroughs ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman/ ► Extramilest Website: https://extramilest.com ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785 ► Path Projects Website: https://pathprojects.com Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases." Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way. ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW: A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete. More info about our running coaching program can be found at https://www.pbprogram.com Subscribe and hit the bell to see new videos: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT

Thanks to LMNT for sponsoring this video. Get a free sample pack with any purchase at https://DrinkLMNT.com/FLO This is one of my favorite podcast episodes I've ever recorded. Scott Johnston is an established coach and co-author of the book Training for the Uphill Athlete. We dive into aerobic development, thresholds, Zone 2 training, and how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete. Watch this full video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/vAqQPDXtq5k Chapters: 0:00 – The aerobic foundation every endurance athlete needs 1:30 – LMNT sponsorship 2:40 – Introducing Scott & Training for the Uphill Athlete 6:38 – Why aerobic capacity matters most 11:49 – How long it takes to build an aerobic engine 14:31 – Aerobic vs anaerobic thresholds 18:38 – Aerobically developed vs deficient athletes 25:08 – Scott's high-level advice for aerobic development 29:47 – How to test aerobic and anaerobic thresholds 36:33 – The second threshold test: duration and intensity 38:50 – Training stress, recovery, and stagnation 43:00 – Injury risk and ramping volume too fast 44:48 – Advice Scott would give his younger self 54:02 – Fast vs slow twitch athletes 59:30 – Threshold workouts and training smarter 1:06:16 – When double threshold workouts make sense 1:07:24 – Where to find Scott 1:09:46 – How to be a healthier, stronger, happier athlete FIND SCOTT JOHNSTON ► Website: https://evokeendurance.com/ ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coach_scott_johnston/ ► Evoke Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evokeendurance/ ► Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/evokeendurance/ ► Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evokecast/id1652132598 ► Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hEgBO6OHjnya5S6CWL024 LINKS & TOOLS MENTIONED ► Training for the New Alpinism Book: https://a.co/d/056KjXT1 ► Training for the Uphill Athlete Book: https://a.co/d/00NXdpdR ► Jeff Pelletier Badwater Movie: https://youtu.be/S774m29AYr4 ► My new book Running Breakthroughs: https://florisgierman.com/ ► More options to buy the book worldwide on Amazon: https://geni.us/running-breakthroughs ► Path Projects: https://pathprojects.com/ ► Extramilest Episode with Mark Allen: https://youtu.be/YlBUJTIggyA YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE: ► My Personal Best Running Coaching Program: https://www.pbprogram.com/ ► Podcast: https://extramilest.com/podcast/ ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785 ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman/ ► Buy my new book Running Breakthroughs: https://florisgierman.com/ ► Extramilest Website: https://extramilest.com ► Path Projects Website: https://pathprojects.com Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases." Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way. ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW: A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete. More info about our running coaching program can be found at https://www.pbprogram.com Subscribe and hit the bell to see new videos: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT