The Trump administration’s attempted dismantling of USAID has ignited a debate around whether humanitarian aid advances or stifles America’s national interest. Andrew Natsios, former administrator of USAID under George W. Bush, joins the Values & Interests podcast to discuss humanitarianism as a moral principle, the impact of aid programs both for U.S. citizens and millions globally, and the potential geopolitical consequences of the shuttering of the aid organization. For more, please go to: <a href= "https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/media/series/values-interests/world-without-usaid-andrew-natsios" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">https://carnegiecouncil.co/values-interests-natsios</a>

<description>&lt;p&gt;The Trump administration’s attempted dismantling of USAID has ignited a debate around whether humanitarian aid advances or stifles America’s national interest. Andrew Natsios, former administrator of USAID under George W. Bush, joins the &lt;em&gt;Values &amp; Interests&lt;/em&gt; podcast to discuss humanitarianism as a moral principle, the impact of aid programs both for U.S. citizens and millions globally, and the potential geopolitical consequences of the shuttering of the aid organization.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;For more, please go to: &lt;a href= "https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/media/series/values-interests/world-without-usaid-andrew-natsios" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;https://carnegiecouncil.co/values-interests-natsios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

The Trump administration’s attempted dismantling of USAID has ignited a debate around whether humanitarian aid advances or stifles America’s national interest. Andrew Natsios, former administrator of USAID under George W. Bush, joins...

A World without USAID? with Andrew Natsios

For the inaugural episode of the Values & Interests podcast, scholar and Carnegie Council president Joel Rosenthal unpacks the complex and often challenging relationship between morality and power in our personal lives and across geopolitics. He highlights the need to reject zero-sum thinking and confront amoral political actors in a moment when the principles of democracy, international cooperation, and humanitarianism are under assault. For more, please go to: <a id="menurj6c" class= "fui-Link ___1q1shib f2hkw1w f3rmtva f1ewtqcl fyind8e f1k6fduh f1w7gpdv fk6fouc fjoy568 figsok6 f1s184ao f1mk8lai fnbmjn9 f1o700av f13mvf36 f1cmlufx f9n3di6 f1ids18y f1tx3yz7 f1deo86v f1eh06m1 f1iescvh fhgqx19 f1olyrje f1p93eir f1nev41a f1h8hb77 f1lqvz6u f10aw75t fsle3fq f17ae5zn" title="https://carnegiecouncil.co/values-interests-rosenthal" href= "https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/media/series/values-interests/morality-power-individual-institution-joel-rosenthal" target="_blank" rel="noopener" aria-label= "Link https://carnegiecouncil.co/values-interests-rosenthal">https://carnegiecouncil.co/values-interests-rosenthal</a>

<description>&lt;p&gt;For the inaugural episode of the &lt;em&gt;Values &amp; Interests&lt;/em&gt; podcast, scholar and Carnegie Council president Joel Rosenthal unpacks the complex and often challenging relationship between morality and power in our personal lives and across geopolitics. He highlights the need to reject zero-sum thinking and confront amoral political actors in a moment when the principles of democracy, international cooperation, and humanitarianism are under assault.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;For more, please go to: &lt;span data-teams="true"&gt;&lt;a id="menurj6c" class= "fui-Link ___1q1shib f2hkw1w f3rmtva f1ewtqcl fyind8e f1k6fduh f1w7gpdv fk6fouc fjoy568 figsok6 f1s184ao f1mk8lai fnbmjn9 f1o700av f13mvf36 f1cmlufx f9n3di6 f1ids18y f1tx3yz7 f1deo86v f1eh06m1 f1iescvh fhgqx19 f1olyrje f1p93eir f1nev41a f1h8hb77 f1lqvz6u f10aw75t fsle3fq f17ae5zn" title="https://carnegiecouncil.co/values-interests-rosenthal" href= "https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/media/series/values-interests/morality-power-individual-institution-joel-rosenthal" target="_blank" rel="noopener" aria-label= "Link https://carnegiecouncil.co/values-interests-rosenthal"&gt;https://carnegiecouncil.co/values-interests-rosenthal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

For the inaugural episode of the Values & Interests podcast, scholar and Carnegie Council president Joel Rosenthal unpacks the complex and often challenging relationship between morality and power in our personal lives and across geopolitics....

Morality and Power from the Individual to the Institution, with Joel Rosenthal

Values & Interests is a new podcast from Carnegie Council, which takes a deep dive into the ethical tensions and tradeoffs at the heart of decision-making in today’s interconnected world. Together, we’ll hear from leaders and experts who have spent their careers reckoning with ethical questions across geopolitics, tech, philosophy, and business.  For more, please go to <a href= "https://www.carnegiecouncil.org">https://www.carnegiecouncil.org</a>

<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Values &amp; Interests&lt;/em&gt; is a new podcast from Carnegie Council, which takes a deep dive into the ethical tensions and tradeoffs at the heart of decision-making in today’s interconnected world. Together, we’ll hear from leaders and experts who have spent their careers reckoning with ethical questions across geopolitics, tech, philosophy, and business. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;For more, please go to &lt;a href= "https://www.carnegiecouncil.org"&gt;https://www.carnegiecouncil.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Values & Interests is a new podcast from Carnegie Council, which takes a deep dive into the ethical tensions and tradeoffs at the heart of decision-making in today’s interconnected world. Together, we’ll hear from leaders and experts who have...

Values & Interests: Trailer to the Series

Democracies faced significant headwinds in 2024 as illiberal leaders and autocrats increasingly collaborated to suppress dissent and undermine institutions, both domestically and transnationally. In 2025, how can democratic states enhance multilateral cooperation to more proactively counter authoritarian efforts to erode freedom? For more, please go to: <a href= "https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/media/series/unlocking-cooperation/unlocking-cooperation-open-societies"> https://carnegiecouncil.co/unlocking-cooperation-open-societies</a>

<description>&lt;p&gt;Democracies faced significant headwinds in 2024 as illiberal leaders and autocrats increasingly collaborated to suppress dissent and undermine institutions, both domestically and transnationally. In 2025, how can democratic states enhance multilateral cooperation to more proactively counter authoritarian efforts to erode freedom?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;For more, please go to: &lt;a href= "https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/media/series/unlocking-cooperation/unlocking-cooperation-open-societies"&gt; https://carnegiecouncil.co/unlocking-cooperation-open-societies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Democracies faced significant headwinds in 2024 as illiberal leaders and autocrats increasingly collaborated to suppress dissent and undermine institutions, both domestically and transnationally. In 2025, how can democratic states enhance...

Unlocking Cooperation: Open Societies

On the heels of a new international order, Carnegie Council will continue to champion the vision of peace and cooperation that remains our mission, says Carnegie Council President Joel Rosenthal in this "Ethical Article."  To read this article, please go to: <a href= "https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/media/series/presidents-desk/new-international-order-our-principles" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">https://carnegiecouncil.co/new-order-principles</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;On the heels of a new international order, Carnegie Council will continue to champion the vision of peace and cooperation that remains our mission, says Carnegie Council President Joel Rosenthal in this "Ethical Article." &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;To read this article, please go to: &lt;a href= "https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/media/series/presidents-desk/new-international-order-our-principles" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;https://carnegiecouncil.co/new-order-principles&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>

On the heels of a new international order, Carnegie Council will continue to champion the vision of peace and cooperation that remains our mission, says Carnegie Council President Joel Rosenthal in this "Ethical Article."  To read this article,...

A New International Order Is Emerging, We Must Bring Our Principles With Us

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