The Next Chapter: Where Does Education Innovation Go From Here? | #WISEOnAir Podcast Former CEO Stavros Yiannouka sits down with CEO Dr. Asyia Kazmi, OBE for a forward-looking conversation on the future of education innovation. In this episode, they explore the questions shaping what comes next, from AI to impact and what truly matters to measure. ▶️ Watch and subscribe for more conversations from WISE On Air 00:00–01:34 – Arrival at WISE: Purpose and Context 01:35–03:01 – Education City: Vision and Ecosystems 03:02–05:12 – Early Teaching: Equity and Identity 05:13–07:55 – School Leadership: Outcomes Over Inputs 07:56–10:14 – UK Civil Service and DFID: Education and Development 10:15–13:54 – Global Policy Work: Pedagogy and Evidence 13:55–15:55 – Inspectorate Leadership: Data and Accountability 15:56–21:02 – Girls’ Education at Scale: Barriers and Impact 21:03–24:32 – Gates Foundation: Learning, EdTech, and AI 24:33–28:03 – Joining WISE: Leadership Transition 28:04–33:44 – WISE as a Global Movement 33:45–35:45 – Education in a Changing World 35:46–39:33 – The WISE Index: Rethinking Outcomes 39:34–41:24 – From Insight to Action: Why Outcomes Differ 41:25–44:01 – The Handover: Advice and Looking Ahead