When a past connection collides with present transformation, something deeply profound emerges. Pastor, author, and podcaster Tim Ross steps out of The Basement and into conversation with Sarah Jakes Roberts. Come to find out, these two go way back. Their dialogue leans into the idea that life is not the absence of tension but the ability to hold it, that leadership demands personal inner work, and that it is our shared humanity that renders the Christian faith relatable. Tim insists he went rogue to be regular, and honestly, we get it! Because breaking away from the negative feedback loops that distort our peace just makes sense. On that note, you can pre-order a copy of his upcoming book, The Missing Peace, and tap into the work for yourself. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices