<description>&lt;p&gt;You may be shocked to hear that musicians sometimes lie about who they are. Some may say this is not shocking at all - it's almost a tradition. But there's a meaningful difference between Ziggy Stardust and a band from North Dakota claiming to be a Chinese black metal act to game the press.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode we try to map that difference. We spend a healthy portion of time on what we're not talking about - aliases, concept bands, anonymity for anonymity's sake - before getting into the genuinely murky territory of bands that have used fabricated identities for commercial advantage. We cover the fake Zombies that toured America simultaneously in 1969, The Masked Marauders and the elaborate Rolling Stone prank that accidentally became a real album, Silibil n Brains, Dundee rappers who got signed to Island Records on the strength of their American accents, before discussing Ghost Bath, the project that brought this whole phenomenon into focus for us.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Along the way we also get into AI-generated music, Milli Vanilli (and why what they did is arguably less dishonest than what plenty of current pop stars do routinely, and a genuinely unresolved case involving a supposedly Iraqi black metal band that may or may not have put its members in real danger.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The question running through all of it: does context change how we hear music? And if it does — what does that say about us?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Highlights:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;00:00 Introduction&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;01:24 Catfish and Hoax Bands Explained&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;02:11 Patreon&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;05:10 Famous Death Hoaxes&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;05:42 Mystique Versus Scams&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;09:02 Not Aliases or Roleplay&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;10:43 Anonymity and Masks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;13:23 Fake Touring Lineups&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;19:03 Concept Bands and Bits&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;24:28 AI Bands and Deception&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;27:54 Outright Music Scams&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;30:13 Milli Vanilli Then and Now&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;30:53 Pop Star Fraud Culture&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;33:39 Mask Marauders Hoax&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;35:20 Orion Elvis Impostor&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;38:50 Platinum Weird Backstory&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;40:25 Syllable American Rap Ruse&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;43:38 Jana Mystery Metal Band&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;46:06 Velvet Cocoon Troll Scam&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;48:36 Ghost Bath Identity Debate&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;54:40 Context and Cultural Relativism&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;58:10 Ghost Bath Fallout and Ethics&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;01:02:53 Outro&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Unsung Podcast

Unsung Podcast

When Artists Aren't What They Seem - Ghost Bath Musical Catfishing and Hoax Bands - 380

MAR 16, 202668 MIN
Unsung Podcast

When Artists Aren't What They Seem - Ghost Bath Musical Catfishing and Hoax Bands - 380

MAR 16, 202668 MIN

Description

<p>You may be shocked to hear that musicians sometimes lie about who they are. Some may say this is not shocking at all - it's almost a tradition. But there's a meaningful difference between Ziggy Stardust and a band from North Dakota claiming to be a Chinese black metal act to game the press.</p><p>In this episode we try to map that difference. We spend a healthy portion of time on what we're not talking about - aliases, concept bands, anonymity for anonymity's sake - before getting into the genuinely murky territory of bands that have used fabricated identities for commercial advantage. We cover the fake Zombies that toured America simultaneously in 1969, The Masked Marauders and the elaborate Rolling Stone prank that accidentally became a real album, Silibil n Brains, Dundee rappers who got signed to Island Records on the strength of their American accents, before discussing Ghost Bath, the project that brought this whole phenomenon into focus for us.</p><p>Along the way we also get into AI-generated music, Milli Vanilli (and why what they did is arguably less dishonest than what plenty of current pop stars do routinely, and a genuinely unresolved case involving a supposedly Iraqi black metal band that may or may not have put its members in real danger.</p><p>The question running through all of it: does context change how we hear music? And if it does — what does that say about us?</p><p>Highlights:</p><p></p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>01:24 Catfish and Hoax Bands Explained</p><p>02:11 Patreon</p><p>05:10 Famous Death Hoaxes</p><p>05:42 Mystique Versus Scams</p><p>09:02 Not Aliases or Roleplay</p><p>10:43 Anonymity and Masks</p><p>13:23 Fake Touring Lineups</p><p>19:03 Concept Bands and Bits</p><p>24:28 AI Bands and Deception</p><p>27:54 Outright Music Scams</p><p>30:13 Milli Vanilli Then and Now</p><p>30:53 Pop Star Fraud Culture</p><p>33:39 Mask Marauders Hoax</p><p>35:20 Orion Elvis Impostor</p><p>38:50 Platinum Weird Backstory</p><p>40:25 Syllable American Rap Ruse</p><p>43:38 Jana Mystery Metal Band</p><p>46:06 Velvet Cocoon Troll Scam</p><p>48:36 Ghost Bath Identity Debate</p><p>54:40 Context and Cultural Relativism</p><p>58:10 Ghost Bath Fallout and Ethics</p><p>01:02:53 Outro</p>