#170 Apprenticeships, Sabbaticals & "Good Work" — Steve Schlafman & Matt Yao on slowing down, deprogramming, unlearning, learning from others, deciding to quit, going on a sabbatical, not being jealous anymore, competitiveness and enoughness, finding good work, ambition, the apprenticeship, Downshift, decelerator, marriage, family and reframing money

MAR 18, 202484 MIN
The Pathless Path with Paul Millerd

#170 Apprenticeships, Sabbaticals & "Good Work" — Steve Schlafman & Matt Yao on slowing down, deprogramming, unlearning, learning from others, deciding to quit, going on a sabbatical, not being jealous anymore, competitiveness and enoughness, finding good work, ambition, the apprenticeship, Downshift, decelerator, marriage, family and reframing money

MAR 18, 202484 MIN

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Steve is a professional coach and the founder of Downshift — the world's first decelerator. He has left a career in venture, but he remains ambitious, it's just that his ambition is now to have a good, multidimentional life, where he can be a good dad for his kids.
Matt has left a traditional path early on to write, travel and discover his own path. When he met Steve, he offered him to become his apprentice and joined Downshift.

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⌛TIMESTAMPS

  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (03:14) - The scripts that Steve & Matt grew up with
  • (06:00) - Slowing down, deprogramming and unlearning
  • (12:52) - The cocoon stage
  • (15:05) - Deciding to quit
  • (19:25) - Learning from others on the path and having children
  • (26:18) - Trust
  • (29:29) - Matt's sabbatical, finding good work
  • (35:26) - No jealousy, competitiveness vs enoughness
  • (39:36) - Matt's apprenticeship with Steve
  • (48:45) - Putting yourself in a place where it's easy to help you
  • (52:43) - Downshift & Ambition
  • (01:03:14) - Marriage & Family
  • (01:11:02) - Reframing money, skiing and oatmeal
  • (01:17:23) - Launching decelerator
  • (01:21:34) - Closing remarks


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