Here are some of the things we mentioned:<ul><li>We <a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/1">launched in December 2017</a>, when Elizabeth was 15</li><li>Y2K fashion is <a href="https://www.thetrendspotter.net/y2k-fashion/">back</a>?</li><li><a href="https://bookriot.com/history-of-zines/">Zine culture</a></li><li>Lilly Singh went from <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfm4y4rHF5HGrSr-qbvOwOg">relatable YouTuber</a> to out of touch <a href="https://www.nbc.com/a-little-late-with-lilly-singh">late show host</a></li><li>The painful “Gen Z slang” <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF2Mf6HxIi0">SNL skit</a></li><li><a href="http://www.footwork.com/book.asp">David Foot</a> and <a href="https://www.coupland.com/generation-x-tales-for-an-accelerated-culture/">Douglas Coupland</a> contributed to a hyper-awareness of generation</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw7FSgzdHFeaIKk4qUD_nEA">StyleLikeU</a> interview with an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6815u7E_7eU&amp;list=PL_jxFaykzU8CqGdC6wmw5F9GKpok_pRov&amp;index=11">elder gay couple</a> to start you off<ul><li>Content notice: mentions of sex, homophobia, addiction and violence</li><li>But it’s really sweet we promise &lt;3</li></ul></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Innis">Harold Innis</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_McLuhan">Marshall McLuhan</a> – still pretty helpful guys for understanding what’s going on</li><li>If you aren’t sold on wrestling, watch <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiiEr5EE-Ygx8yxWYllNIZoROoAsTi4Oy">these videos</a></li><li>You can find Karen’s work at <a href="https://edmonton.taproot.news/">Taproot Edmonton</a> and <a href="https://taprootpublishing.ca/">Taproot Publishing</a></li><li>Shout-out to our colleagues at the <a href="https://albertapodcastnetwork.com">Alberta Podcast Network</a></li><li>The <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CZd3HdBOnSQ/?utm_medium=copy_link">first pages </a>of Elizabeth’s comic project</li><li>You might hear us some time on <a href="https://idontgetitdance.wpcomstaging.com/">I Don’t Get It</a></li><li>We recommend <a href="https://transistor.fm">Transistor</a> for hosting and <a href="http://wearecastria.com/">Castria</a> for editing</li></ul>Many thanks to our sponsors:<ul><li><a href="https://bgcbigs.ca/">BGCBigs</a></li><li><a href="https://www.epsb.ca/schools/openhouse/">Virtual Open House Season</a> from Edmonton Public Schools</li></ul>That's a Thing?! is a proud member of the <a href="https://albertapodcastnetwork.com/">Alberta Podcast Network</a>. Locally grown. Community supported. We’re done now, but you can still email us at <a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com">thatsathingyeg@gmail.com</a> or tweet at us: <a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg">@thatsathingyeg</a>. Do you want a <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B9QMvCmg9Yj/">That’s a Thing?! button</a>? Send us your address <a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg">by Twitter DM</a> or <a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com">email</a> and we will send you one.  Our theme music is <a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Joplin/">Ragtime Dance by Scott Joplin</a>, from Free Music Archive.

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 &lt;p&gt;Here are some of the things we mentioned:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;We &lt;a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/1"&gt;launched in December 2017&lt;/a&gt;, when Elizabeth was 15&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Y2K fashion is &lt;a href="https://www.thetrendspotter.net/y2k-fashion/"&gt;back&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookriot.com/history-of-zines/"&gt;Zine culture&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Lilly Singh went from &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfm4y4rHF5HGrSr-qbvOwOg"&gt;relatable YouTuber&lt;/a&gt; to out of touch &lt;a href="https://www.nbc.com/a-little-late-with-lilly-singh"&gt;late show host&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The painful “Gen Z slang” &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF2Mf6HxIi0"&gt;SNL skit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.footwork.com/book.asp"&gt;David Foot&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.coupland.com/generation-x-tales-for-an-accelerated-culture/"&gt;Douglas Coupland&lt;/a&gt; contributed to a hyper-awareness of generation&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw7FSgzdHFeaIKk4qUD_nEA"&gt;StyleLikeU&lt;/a&gt; interview with an &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6815u7E_7eU&amp;amp;list=PL_jxFaykzU8CqGdC6wmw5F9GKpok_pRov&amp;amp;index=11"&gt;elder gay couple&lt;/a&gt; to start you off&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Content notice: mentions of sex, homophobia, addiction and violence&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;But it’s really sweet we promise &amp;lt;3&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Innis"&gt;Harold Innis&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_McLuhan"&gt;Marshall McLuhan&lt;/a&gt; – still pretty helpful guys for understanding what’s going on&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If you aren’t sold on wrestling, watch &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiiEr5EE-Ygx8yxWYllNIZoROoAsTi4Oy"&gt;these videos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;You can find Karen’s work at &lt;a href="https://edmonton.taproot.news/"&gt;Taproot Edmonton&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://taprootpublishing.ca/"&gt;Taproot Publishing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Shout-out to our colleagues at the &lt;a href="https://albertapodcastnetwork.com"&gt;Alberta Podcast Network&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CZd3HdBOnSQ/?utm_medium=copy_link"&gt;first pages &lt;/a&gt;of Elizabeth’s comic project&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;You might hear us some time on &lt;a href="https://idontgetitdance.wpcomstaging.com/"&gt;I Don’t Get It&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;We recommend &lt;a href="https://transistor.fm"&gt;Transistor&lt;/a&gt; for hosting and &lt;a href="http://wearecastria.com/"&gt;Castria&lt;/a&gt; for editing&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many thanks to our sponsors:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bgcbigs.ca/"&gt;BGCBigs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.epsb.ca/schools/openhouse/"&gt;Virtual Open House Season&lt;/a&gt; from Edmonton Public Schools&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;That's a Thing?! is a proud member of the &lt;a href="https://albertapodcastnetwork.com/"&gt;Alberta Podcast Network&lt;/a&gt;. Locally grown. Community supported.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We’re done now, but you can still email us at &lt;a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com"&gt;thatsathingyeg@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; or tweet at us: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg"&gt;@thatsathingyeg&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do you want a &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B9QMvCmg9Yj/"&gt;That’s a Thing?! button&lt;/a&gt;? Send us your address &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg"&gt;by Twitter DM&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com"&gt;email&lt;/a&gt; and we will send you one. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Our theme music is &lt;a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Joplin/"&gt;Ragtime Dance by Scott Joplin&lt;/a&gt;, from Free Music Archive.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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At the ripe old age of 20, Elizabeth is now too geriatric for this show. So here is our finale, in which Karen reviews some of the lessons she’s learned from doing this podcast, and Elizabeth corrects her, as always.

Well, that was a thing

Here are some of the things we mentioned in this episode: <ul><li> Susan Sontag’s <a href="https://monoskop.org/images/5/59/Sontag_Susan_1964_Notes_on_Camp.pdf">Notes On “Camp”</a><ul><li>Or a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2JS_BrGEBg">six-minute explainer</a> if you don’t have the time</li></ul></li><li>The shortcomings of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRSArNN6wJE">CinemaSins</a></li><li>The even-shorter-comings of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rokAtlFGa7Y">Nostalgia Critic</a></li><li>About <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms">KiwiFarms</a>, one of the most unpleasant sites on the surface web</li><li><a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/06/27/1010355669/chris-crocker-leave-britney-alone-video-creator-reflects-on-whats-changed">Interview</a> with the creator of Leave Britney Alone</li><li>A case study for toxic anti-fandom behaviour: <a href="https://youtu.be/lLYWHpgIoIw">gamergate</a></li><li>Callback to a <a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/5">long-ago episode</a> where we talked about shipping</li><li>A look at both sides of the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OcLDcg7UJw">shipping war</a><ul><li>And a look at the history of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHr-ABz2YI0&amp;t=0s">purity culture in fandom</a></li></ul></li><li>Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/ZeeshanAleem/status/1367553913239592963">thread</a> on disinterpretation <ul><li>And a <a href="https://youtu.be/Ui-ArJRqEvU">video</a> on Ship of Theseus </li></ul></li><li>The history of the <a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/touch-grass">“touch grass”</a> meme</li><li><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/26/tennessee-school-board-bans-holocaust-comic-maus-by-art-spiegelman.html">Tennessee school board bans Holocaust comic 'Maus' by Art Spiegelman</a></li><li>A more sympathetic analysis of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWszkRHoK5s">Why the Curtains are Blue</a></li></ul>Fortunately, we have entered a boom period for criticism online. Here are five excellent videos expanding on what we discussed this episode.<ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVp1F7I1kjI">we need to talk about Call Me By Your Name</a> by Lola Sebastian</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkTjlf6BTFU">Should you let Gen Z "save us"? Youth Liberation explained</a> by Khadija Mbowe and Saint Andrewism</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATITdJg7bWI">Ignorance &amp; Censorship</a> by Philosophy Tube</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8u8wZ0WvxI">Outsiders: How To Adapt H.P. Lovecraft In the 21st Century</a> by hbomberguy</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5DqmTtCPiQ">Who’s Afraid of Modern Art: Vandalism, Video Games, and Fascism</a> by Jacob Geller</li></ul>Many thanks to our sponsors:<ul><li><a href="https://bgcbigs.ca/">BGCBigs</a></li><li><a href="https://www.epsb.ca/schools/openhouse/">Virtual Open House Season</a> from Edmonton Public Schools</li></ul>That's a Thing?! is a proud member of the <a href="https://albertapodcastnetwork.com/">Alberta Podcast Network</a> — Locally grown. Community supported. You can <a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/subscribe">follow us</a> in all the places, and most of them let you rate and review, too, which would be lovely. Questions? Comments? Email us at <a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com">thatsathingyeg@gmail.com</a> or tweet at us: <a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg">@thatsathingyeg</a>. Do you want a <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B9QMvCmg9Yj/">That’s a Thing?! button</a>? Send us your address <a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg">by Twitter DM</a> or <a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com">email</a> and we will send you one.  Many thanks to <a href="https://transistor.fm/?via=karen">Transistor</a> for hosting our show. Our theme music is <a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Joplin/">Ragtime Dance by Scott Joplin</a>, from Free Music Archive.

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 &lt;p&gt;Here are some of the things we mentioned in this episode: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt; Susan Sontag’s &lt;a href="https://monoskop.org/images/5/59/Sontag_Susan_1964_Notes_on_Camp.pdf"&gt;Notes On “Camp”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Or a &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2JS_BrGEBg"&gt;six-minute explainer&lt;/a&gt; if you don’t have the time&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The shortcomings of &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRSArNN6wJE"&gt;CinemaSins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The even-shorter-comings of &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rokAtlFGa7Y"&gt;Nostalgia Critic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;About &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms"&gt;KiwiFarms&lt;/a&gt;, one of the most unpleasant sites on the surface web&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/06/27/1010355669/chris-crocker-leave-britney-alone-video-creator-reflects-on-whats-changed"&gt;Interview&lt;/a&gt; with the creator of Leave Britney Alone&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A case study for toxic anti-fandom behaviour: &lt;a href="https://youtu.be/lLYWHpgIoIw"&gt;gamergate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Callback to a &lt;a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/5"&gt;long-ago episode&lt;/a&gt; where we talked about shipping&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A look at both sides of the &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OcLDcg7UJw"&gt;shipping war&lt;/a&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;And a look at the history of &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHr-ABz2YI0&amp;amp;t=0s"&gt;purity culture in fandom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Twitter &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ZeeshanAleem/status/1367553913239592963"&gt;thread&lt;/a&gt; on disinterpretation &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;And a &lt;a href="https://youtu.be/Ui-ArJRqEvU"&gt;video&lt;/a&gt; on Ship of Theseus &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The history of the &lt;a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/touch-grass"&gt;“touch grass”&lt;/a&gt; meme&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/26/tennessee-school-board-bans-holocaust-comic-maus-by-art-spiegelman.html"&gt;Tennessee school board bans Holocaust comic 'Maus' by Art Spiegelman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A more sympathetic analysis of &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWszkRHoK5s"&gt;Why the Curtains are Blue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fortunately, we have entered a boom period for criticism online. Here are five excellent videos expanding on what we discussed this episode.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVp1F7I1kjI"&gt;we need to talk about Call Me By Your Name&lt;/a&gt; by Lola Sebastian&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkTjlf6BTFU"&gt;Should you let Gen Z "save us"? Youth Liberation explained&lt;/a&gt; by Khadija Mbowe and Saint Andrewism&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATITdJg7bWI"&gt;Ignorance &amp;amp; Censorship&lt;/a&gt; by Philosophy Tube&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8u8wZ0WvxI"&gt;Outsiders: How To Adapt H.P. Lovecraft In the 21st Century&lt;/a&gt; by hbomberguy&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5DqmTtCPiQ"&gt;Who’s Afraid of Modern Art: Vandalism, Video Games, and Fascism&lt;/a&gt; by Jacob Geller&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many thanks to our sponsors:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bgcbigs.ca/"&gt;BGCBigs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.epsb.ca/schools/openhouse/"&gt;Virtual Open House Season&lt;/a&gt; from Edmonton Public Schools&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;That's a Thing?! is a proud member of the &lt;a href="https://albertapodcastnetwork.com/"&gt;Alberta Podcast Network&lt;/a&gt; — Locally grown. Community supported.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can &lt;a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/subscribe"&gt;follow us&lt;/a&gt; in all the places, and most of them let you rate and review, too, which would be lovely.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Questions? Comments? Email us at &lt;a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com"&gt;thatsathingyeg@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; or tweet at us: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg"&gt;@thatsathingyeg&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do you want a &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B9QMvCmg9Yj/"&gt;That’s a Thing?! button&lt;/a&gt;? Send us your address &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg"&gt;by Twitter DM&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com"&gt;email&lt;/a&gt; and we will send you one. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many thanks to &lt;a href="https://transistor.fm/?via=karen"&gt;Transistor&lt;/a&gt; for hosting our show. Our theme music is &lt;a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Joplin/"&gt;Ragtime Dance by Scott Joplin&lt;/a&gt;, from Free Music Archive.&lt;/p&gt;
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What do we do about “bad” art? Argue about it on Twitter, mostly. This episode, Elizabeth and Karen step into a space of nuance in an attempt to understand shipping wars, extreme fandom behaviour, and the value of uncomfortable art.

CensorSHIP

Here are some of the things we mentioned in this episode:<ul><li>We are not actually an <a href="https://www.theverge.com/22310188/nft-explainer-what-is-blockchain-crypto-art-faq">NFT</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.roblox.com/">Roblox</a></li><li>Watch these videos from PeopleMakeGames on Roblox:<ul><li><a href="https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ">Investigation: How Roblox Is Exploiting Young Game Developers</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/vTMF6xEiAaY">Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper.</a></li></ul></li><li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gig-economy.asp">Gig economy</a></li><li>Callback to our MLM episode: <a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/19">Have I got a deal for you?</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip">Company scrip</a> </li><li>Roblox <a href="https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/roblox-rblx-stock-ipo%3A-heres-what-investors-need-to-know-2021-03-09">on the stock market </a></li><li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/8/22825153/wattpad-webtoon-originals-paramount-plus-viacomcbs">Wattpad’s deal with Paramount+</a></li><li><a href="https://archiveofourown.org/">Archive of Our Own (AO3)</a></li><li>Callback to our fan fiction episode: <a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/5">Episode 5: Fanfictionary</a></li><li><a href="https://opensea.io/">OpenSea</a>, an NFT marketplace</li><li><a href="http://ethereum.org">Ethereum</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/NFTtheft">Twitter account</a> dedicated to sniffing out art theft</li><li><a href="https://www.deviantart.com/">DeviantArt</a></li><li>Example of the <a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/3abnwv/this-powerful-right-click-artwork-is-made-of-10000-nfts">right-click movement against NFT art</a></li><li><a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FUD">FUD</a></li><li>Some more anti-NFT content for you<ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Ousz2VO4g">The NFT Nightmare</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB5iS6ONAO4">NFTs Are Getting Worse. Like WAY Worse.</a></li><li>Dan Olson’s NFT scam <a href="https://twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/1445986978189639680?s=20">megathread</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvGsiMwtytg">laughing at crypto bros</a>, a deceptively educational livestream</li></ul></li></ul>Many thanks to our sponsors:<ul><li><a href="https://optometrists.ab.ca/">Alberta Association of Optometrists</a></li><li><a href="https://parkpower.ca/">Park Power</a></li></ul>That's a Thing?! is a proud member of the <a href="https://albertapodcastnetwork.com/">Alberta Podcast Network</a> — Locally grown. Community supported. You can <a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/subscribe">follow us</a> in all the places, and most of them let you rate and review, too, which would be lovely. Questions? Comments? Email us at <a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com">thatsathingyeg@gmail.com</a> or tweet at us: <a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg">@thatsathingyeg</a>. Do you want a <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B9QMvCmg9Yj/">That’s a Thing?! button</a>? Send us your address <a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg">by Twitter DM</a> or <a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com">email</a> and we will send you one.  Many thanks to <a href="https://transistor.fm/?via=karen">Transistor</a> for hosting our show. Our theme music is <a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Joplin/">Ragtime Dance by Scott Joplin</a>, from Free Music Archive.

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 &lt;p&gt;Here are some of the things we mentioned in this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;We are not actually an &lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/22310188/nft-explainer-what-is-blockchain-crypto-art-faq"&gt;NFT&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.roblox.com/"&gt;Roblox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Watch these videos from PeopleMakeGames on Roblox:&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ"&gt;Investigation: How Roblox Is Exploiting Young Game Developers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/vTMF6xEiAaY"&gt;Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gig-economy.asp"&gt;Gig economy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Callback to our MLM episode: &lt;a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/19"&gt;Have I got a deal for you?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip"&gt;Company scrip&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Roblox &lt;a href="https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/roblox-rblx-stock-ipo%3A-heres-what-investors-need-to-know-2021-03-09"&gt;on the stock market &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/8/22825153/wattpad-webtoon-originals-paramount-plus-viacomcbs"&gt;Wattpad’s deal with Paramount+&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://archiveofourown.org/"&gt;Archive of Our Own (AO3)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Callback to our fan fiction episode: &lt;a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/5"&gt;Episode 5: Fanfictionary&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://opensea.io/"&gt;OpenSea&lt;/a&gt;, an NFT marketplace&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://ethereum.org"&gt;Ethereum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/NFTtheft"&gt;Twitter account&lt;/a&gt; dedicated to sniffing out art theft&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.deviantart.com/"&gt;DeviantArt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Example of the &lt;a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/3abnwv/this-powerful-right-click-artwork-is-made-of-10000-nfts"&gt;right-click movement against NFT art&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FUD"&gt;FUD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Some more anti-NFT content for you&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Ousz2VO4g"&gt;The NFT Nightmare&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB5iS6ONAO4"&gt;NFTs Are Getting Worse. Like WAY Worse.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dan Olson’s NFT scam &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/1445986978189639680?s=20"&gt;megathread&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvGsiMwtytg"&gt;laughing at crypto bros&lt;/a&gt;, a deceptively educational livestream&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many thanks to our sponsors:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://optometrists.ab.ca/"&gt;Alberta Association of Optometrists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://parkpower.ca/"&gt;Park Power&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;That's a Thing?! is a proud member of the &lt;a href="https://albertapodcastnetwork.com/"&gt;Alberta Podcast Network&lt;/a&gt; — Locally grown. Community supported.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can &lt;a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/subscribe"&gt;follow us&lt;/a&gt; in all the places, and most of them let you rate and review, too, which would be lovely.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Questions? Comments? Email us at &lt;a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com"&gt;thatsathingyeg@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; or tweet at us: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg"&gt;@thatsathingyeg&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do you want a &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B9QMvCmg9Yj/"&gt;That’s a Thing?! button&lt;/a&gt;? Send us your address &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg"&gt;by Twitter DM&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com"&gt;email&lt;/a&gt; and we will send you one. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many thanks to &lt;a href="https://transistor.fm/?via=karen"&gt;Transistor&lt;/a&gt; for hosting our show. Our theme music is &lt;a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Joplin/"&gt;Ragtime Dance by Scott Joplin&lt;/a&gt;, from Free Music Archive.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Elizabeth sows some FUD about making money with Roblox, Wattpad, and OpenSea. Welcome to post-scarcity economics, kids.

New ways to own and be owned

Here are some of the things we talk about or at least gesture at in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXlYuaycRbU">How Bad Can I Be</a> from The Lorax (2012) (in case you forget what a <a href="https://seuss.fandom.com/wiki/Thneed">thneed</a> is)</li><li>Shein’s <a href="https://ca.shein.com/About-Us-a-117.html">about us page</a></li><li>Shein’s <a href="https://ca.shein.com/campaign/csr">social responsibility page</a></li><li>Reuters article about Shein’s <a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/exclusive-chinese-retailer-shein-lacks-disclosures-made-false-statements-about-2021-08-06/">lack of disclosure</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22573682/shein-future-of-fast-fashion-explained">Vox article on Shein</a></li><li>Callback to our <a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/19">MLM episode</a> (though Shein’s not an MLM)</li><li>Articles of Interest episode on <a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/knockoffs-articles-of-interest-8/">knockoffs</a></li><li>A TikTok featuring the <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@tearastar/video/6864617656905993478?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1">strawberry dress</a></li><li>Callback to our <a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/30">cottagecore episode</a></li><li>The Bangladesh <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Dhaka_garment_factory_collapse">garment factory collapse</a></li><li>The <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/instagram-pet-photo-campaign-1.6243186">pet-pictures-for-trees fiasco</a></li><li>Some anti-Shein TikToks<ul><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@ssiiena/video/6993034600368884997?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;t=1638234869380">https://www.tiktok.com/@ssiiena/video/6993034600368884997?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;t=1638234869380</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@milkbite/video/6997215512925097221?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;t=1638234869380">https://www.tiktok.com/@milkbite/video/6997215512925097221?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;t=1638234869380</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@haleyivers/video/6972647481569971462?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;t=1638234869380">https://www.tiktok.com/@haleyivers/video/6972647481569971462?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;t=1638234869380</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@maddypageknitwear/video/6977324167226084613?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;t=1638234869380">https://www.tiktok.com/@maddypageknitwear/video/6977324167226084613?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;t=1638234869380</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@cuteshitbylili/video/6952699186299047174?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;t=1638234869380">https://www.tiktok.com/@cuteshitbylili/video/6952699186299047174?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;t=1638234869380</a> </li></ul></li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9353463-the-sam-vimes-boots-theory-of-economic-injustice-runs-thus">The Sam Vimes "Boots" Theory of Economic Injustice</a>, per Terry Pratchett</li><li><a href="https://www.ipl.org/essay/It-Is-Expensive-To-Be-Poor-By-PJ4LZWK6U">It’s Expensive to Be Poor</a>, by Barbara Ehrenreich</li><li>Cora Harrington has a very balanced approach to <a href="https://twitter.com/lingerie_addict?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">affordability, sustainability and care</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/yegrepairathon">Edmonton Repairathon</a></li><li><a href="https://clothes-doctor.com/">Clothes Doctor</a></li><li><a href="https://www.fashionrevolution.org/">Fashion Revolution</a></li></ul>Many thanks to our sponsors:<ul><li><a href="https://ecfoundation.org">Edmonton Community Foundation</a>, partner on the Vital Signs report on <a href="https://edmontonsocialplanning.ca/2021/10/05/vital-signs-2021-making-ends-meet-in-edmonton/">Making Ends Meet in Edmonton</a></li><li><a href="https://parkpower.ca/">Park Power</a></li></ul>That's a Thing?! is a proud member of the <a href="https://albertapodcastnetwork.com/">Alberta Podcast Network</a> — Locally grown. Community-supported.  You can <a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/subscribe">follow us</a> in all the places, and most of them let you rate and review, too, which would be lovely. Questions? Comments? Email us at <a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com">thatsathingyeg@gmail.com</a> or tweet at us: <a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg">@thatsathingyeg</a>. Do you want a <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B9QMvCmg9Yj/">That’s a Thing?! button</a>? Send us your address <a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg">by Twitter DM</a> or <a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com">email</a> and we will send you one.  Many thanks to <a href="https://transistor.fm/?via=karen">Transistor</a> for hosting our show. Our theme music is <a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Joplin/">Ragtime Dance by Scott Joplin</a>, from Free Music Archive.

<description>
 &lt;p&gt;Here are some of the things we talk about or at least gesture at in this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXlYuaycRbU"&gt;How Bad Can I Be&lt;/a&gt; from The Lorax (2012) (in case you forget what a &lt;a href="https://seuss.fandom.com/wiki/Thneed"&gt;thneed&lt;/a&gt; is)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Shein’s &lt;a href="https://ca.shein.com/About-Us-a-117.html"&gt;about us page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Shein’s &lt;a href="https://ca.shein.com/campaign/csr"&gt;social responsibility page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Reuters article about Shein’s &lt;a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/exclusive-chinese-retailer-shein-lacks-disclosures-made-false-statements-about-2021-08-06/"&gt;lack of disclosure&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22573682/shein-future-of-fast-fashion-explained"&gt;Vox article on Shein&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Callback to our &lt;a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/19"&gt;MLM episode&lt;/a&gt; (though Shein’s not an MLM)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Articles of Interest episode on &lt;a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/knockoffs-articles-of-interest-8/"&gt;knockoffs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A TikTok featuring the &lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@tearastar/video/6864617656905993478?is_copy_url=1&amp;amp;is_from_webapp=v1"&gt;strawberry dress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Callback to our &lt;a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/30"&gt;cottagecore episode&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Bangladesh &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Dhaka_garment_factory_collapse"&gt;garment factory collapse&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/instagram-pet-photo-campaign-1.6243186"&gt;pet-pictures-for-trees fiasco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Some anti-Shein TikToks&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@ssiiena/video/6993034600368884997?is_copy_url=1&amp;amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;amp;t=1638234869380"&gt;https://www.tiktok.com/@ssiiena/video/6993034600368884997?is_copy_url=1&amp;amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;amp;t=1638234869380&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@milkbite/video/6997215512925097221?is_copy_url=1&amp;amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;amp;t=1638234869380"&gt;https://www.tiktok.com/@milkbite/video/6997215512925097221?is_copy_url=1&amp;amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;amp;t=1638234869380&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@haleyivers/video/6972647481569971462?is_copy_url=1&amp;amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;amp;t=1638234869380"&gt;https://www.tiktok.com/@haleyivers/video/6972647481569971462?is_copy_url=1&amp;amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;amp;t=1638234869380&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@maddypageknitwear/video/6977324167226084613?is_copy_url=1&amp;amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;amp;t=1638234869380"&gt;https://www.tiktok.com/@maddypageknitwear/video/6977324167226084613?is_copy_url=1&amp;amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;amp;t=1638234869380&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@cuteshitbylili/video/6952699186299047174?is_copy_url=1&amp;amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;amp;t=1638234869380"&gt;https://www.tiktok.com/@cuteshitbylili/video/6952699186299047174?is_copy_url=1&amp;amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;amp;q=thrift%20shein&amp;amp;t=1638234869380&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9353463-the-sam-vimes-boots-theory-of-economic-injustice-runs-thus"&gt;The Sam Vimes "Boots" Theory of Economic Injustice&lt;/a&gt;, per Terry Pratchett&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.ipl.org/essay/It-Is-Expensive-To-Be-Poor-By-PJ4LZWK6U"&gt;It’s Expensive to Be Poor&lt;/a&gt;, by Barbara Ehrenreich&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cora Harrington has a very balanced approach to &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/lingerie_addict?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor"&gt;affordability, sustainability and care&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/yegrepairathon"&gt;Edmonton Repairathon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://clothes-doctor.com/"&gt;Clothes Doctor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.fashionrevolution.org/"&gt;Fashion Revolution&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many thanks to our sponsors:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ecfoundation.org"&gt;Edmonton Community Foundation&lt;/a&gt;, partner on the Vital Signs report on &lt;a href="https://edmontonsocialplanning.ca/2021/10/05/vital-signs-2021-making-ends-meet-in-edmonton/"&gt;Making Ends Meet in Edmonton&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://parkpower.ca/"&gt;Park Power&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;That's a Thing?! is a proud member of the &lt;a href="https://albertapodcastnetwork.com/"&gt;Alberta Podcast Network&lt;/a&gt; — Locally grown. Community-supported. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can &lt;a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/subscribe"&gt;follow us&lt;/a&gt; in all the places, and most of them let you rate and review, too, which would be lovely.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Questions? Comments? Email us at &lt;a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com"&gt;thatsathingyeg@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; or tweet at us: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg"&gt;@thatsathingyeg&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do you want a &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B9QMvCmg9Yj/"&gt;That’s a Thing?! button&lt;/a&gt;? Send us your address &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg"&gt;by Twitter DM&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com"&gt;email&lt;/a&gt; and we will send you one. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many thanks to &lt;a href="https://transistor.fm/?via=karen"&gt;Transistor&lt;/a&gt; for hosting our show. Our theme music is &lt;a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Joplin/"&gt;Ragtime Dance by Scott Joplin&lt;/a&gt;, from Free Music Archive.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Elizabeth takes Karen on a journey through fast fashion, influencer capitalism and the single-wear nightmare.

Conzoomerism

For more fears and jeers, consider the following:<ul><li>Callback to our <a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/43">episode on Inside</a></li><li>Callback to our episode on <a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/46">analog horror</a></li><li>A needlessly thorough <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_(1982_film)#Plot">Wikipedia synopsis</a> </li><li>A list of other <a href="https://bechdeltest.com/">Bechdel Test</a> passing movies</li><li>Bathtubs Over Broadway and the consequences of <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/can-a-musical-sponsored-by-a-toilet-manufacturer-be-a-work-of-art">comedy damage</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4joWeYHjogg">Nyx Fears</a> if you want to be upset/fascinated by scary movies </li><li>A <a href="https://twitter.com/scumbelievable/status/1446570980994949122?s=20">thread</a> on the pitfalls of smarty pants protagonists</li><li>If you didn’t watch <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c66w6fVqOI">Contingency</a> after last episode, go watch it now!</li><li>Pauline Kael was <a href="https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/movies/poltergeist-pauline-kael/">even harsher</a> to this movie than Elizabeth was</li><li>The <a href="https://www.polygon.com/2020/10/3/21497819/scariest-pg-movies-poltergeist-scenes-clown-tree-pool-skeletons">rating</a> debate</li><li>Poltergeist was fine, but here’s some movies we actively recommend<ul><li>The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari (1920, 100% mom safe)</li><li>What We Do in the Shadows (2014, comedic gore/violence)</li><li>The Lighthouse (2019, gore/violence/sexual content/psychological horror)</li><li>House on Haunted Hill (1959, campy and delightful)</li><li>Night of the Living Dead (1968, gory and violent, mitigated by its age and budget)</li><li>The Girl with all the Gifts (2016, violent and gory, but strangely uplifting)</li></ul></li><li>Music is <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qqTU7zc1As&amp;list=PLt4ZkJ3lYmFV_MvEy2vJbTj_rp_N8MEvn&amp;index=4">Now or Never</a> by <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiSKnkKCKAQVxMUWpZQobuQ">Myuu</a>, who is a fantastic royalty-free composer</li><li>Sound clips from our special feature courtesy of:<ul><li><a href="https://freesound.org/people/joedeshon/sounds/324404/">Joe DeShon</a></li><li><a href="https://freesound.org/people/pfranzen/sounds/328171/">pfranzen</a> </li><li><a href="https://freesound.org/people/gear_clinkz/sounds/394529/">gear_clinkz</a></li><li><a href="https://freesound.org/people/owly-bee/sounds/415353/">owly-bee</a></li></ul></li></ul>Many thanks to our sponsors:<ul><li><a href="https://optometrists.ab.ca/">Alberta Association of Optometrists</a></li><li>APN itself, in particular <a href="https://speakingmunicipally.taprootedmonton.ca/">Speaking Municipally</a> and <a href="https://iltys2.podbean.com/">I Love This, You Should Too</a></li></ul>That's a Thing?! is a proud member of the <a href="https://albertapodcastnetwork.com/">Alberta Podcast Network</a>: Locally grown. Community supported.  You can <a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/subscribe">follow us</a> in all the places, and most of them let you rate and review, too, which would be lovely. Questions? Comments? Email us at <a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com">thatsathingyeg@gmail.com</a> or tweet at us: <a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg">@thatsathingyeg</a>. Do you want a <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B9QMvCmg9Yj/">That’s a Thing?! button</a>? Send us your address <a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg">by Twitter DM</a> or <a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com">email</a> and we will send you one.  Many thanks to <a href="https://transistor.fm/?via=karen">Transistor</a> for hosting our show. Our theme music is <a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Joplin/">Ragtime Dance by Scott Joplin</a>, from Free Music Archive.

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 &lt;p&gt;For more fears and jeers, consider the following:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Callback to our &lt;a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/43"&gt;episode on Inside&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Callback to our episode on &lt;a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/46"&gt;analog horror&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A needlessly thorough &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_(1982_film)#Plot"&gt;Wikipedia synopsis&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A list of other &lt;a href="https://bechdeltest.com/"&gt;Bechdel Test&lt;/a&gt; passing movies&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bathtubs Over Broadway and the consequences of &lt;a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/can-a-musical-sponsored-by-a-toilet-manufacturer-be-a-work-of-art"&gt;comedy damage&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Check out &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4joWeYHjogg"&gt;Nyx Fears&lt;/a&gt; if you want to be upset/fascinated by scary movies &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/scumbelievable/status/1446570980994949122?s=20"&gt;thread&lt;/a&gt; on the pitfalls of smarty pants protagonists&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If you didn’t watch &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c66w6fVqOI"&gt;Contingency&lt;/a&gt; after last episode, go watch it now!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Pauline Kael was &lt;a href="https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/movies/poltergeist-pauline-kael/"&gt;even harsher&lt;/a&gt; to this movie than Elizabeth was&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="https://www.polygon.com/2020/10/3/21497819/scariest-pg-movies-poltergeist-scenes-clown-tree-pool-skeletons"&gt;rating&lt;/a&gt; debate&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Poltergeist was fine, but here’s some movies we actively recommend&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari (1920, 100% mom safe)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What We Do in the Shadows (2014, comedic gore/violence)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Lighthouse (2019, gore/violence/sexual content/psychological horror)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;House on Haunted Hill (1959, campy and delightful)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Night of the Living Dead (1968, gory and violent, mitigated by its age and budget)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Girl with all the Gifts (2016, violent and gory, but strangely uplifting)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Music is &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qqTU7zc1As&amp;amp;list=PLt4ZkJ3lYmFV_MvEy2vJbTj_rp_N8MEvn&amp;amp;index=4"&gt;Now or Never&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiSKnkKCKAQVxMUWpZQobuQ"&gt;Myuu&lt;/a&gt;, who is a fantastic royalty-free composer&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sound clips from our special feature courtesy of:&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://freesound.org/people/joedeshon/sounds/324404/"&gt;Joe DeShon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://freesound.org/people/pfranzen/sounds/328171/"&gt;pfranzen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://freesound.org/people/gear_clinkz/sounds/394529/"&gt;gear_clinkz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://freesound.org/people/owly-bee/sounds/415353/"&gt;owly-bee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many thanks to our sponsors:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://optometrists.ab.ca/"&gt;Alberta Association of Optometrists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;APN itself, in particular &lt;a href="https://speakingmunicipally.taprootedmonton.ca/"&gt;Speaking Municipally&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://iltys2.podbean.com/"&gt;I Love This, You Should Too&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;That's a Thing?! is a proud member of the &lt;a href="https://albertapodcastnetwork.com/"&gt;Alberta Podcast Network&lt;/a&gt;: Locally grown. Community supported. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can &lt;a href="https://thatsathing.transistor.fm/subscribe"&gt;follow us&lt;/a&gt; in all the places, and most of them let you rate and review, too, which would be lovely.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Questions? Comments? Email us at &lt;a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com"&gt;thatsathingyeg@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; or tweet at us: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg"&gt;@thatsathingyeg&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do you want a &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B9QMvCmg9Yj/"&gt;That’s a Thing?! button&lt;/a&gt;? Send us your address &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/thatsathingyeg"&gt;by Twitter DM&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="mailto:thatsathingyeg@gmail.com"&gt;email&lt;/a&gt; and we will send you one. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many thanks to &lt;a href="https://transistor.fm/?via=karen"&gt;Transistor&lt;/a&gt; for hosting our show. Our theme music is &lt;a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Scott_Joplin/"&gt;Ragtime Dance by Scott Joplin&lt;/a&gt;, from Free Music Archive.&lt;/p&gt;
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What if TV but too much? This and many other important questions are kinda-sorta-almost answered on the scarier side of the Summer of Spielberg. Elizabeth and Karen puzzle their way through Poltergeist in this 100% not-haunted Halloween episode. 

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A sometimes belated, already outdated guide to your teens, tweens and everything under 20. In each episode, Elizabeth, a teenager, explains a thing to Karen, her mother. And Karen tells Elizabeth how that thing relates to something she knows. Maybe.

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