In this episode of the Wine and Gold Talk podcast, Ethan Sands and Chris Fedor discuss the Cavs' latest disappointing loss falling 127-111 to the struggling Chicago Bulls. Cleveland has tried nearly everything to snap out of its funk — player-led meetings, lineup tweaks and messaging shifts — yet the same issues persist on both ends of the floor. The conversation centers on a hard question the Cavs can no longer avoid: what evidence actually supports the “defense-first” label they continue to lean on? Sands and Fedor push back on comparisons to teams that eventually played their way out of early-season struggles and into deep playoff runs, noting that this Cleveland roster has yet to show it can consistently defend, let alone impose itself as an elite team. Until that proof shows up, the Cavs aren’t unlucky or unfinished — they’re unresolved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices