It was with heavy hearts that Phil and JF learned of Gordon White's passing. Gordon was a force to be reckoned with: as an author and podcaster on all things occult, he offered unique perspectives and provocative interpretations at every turn. In this episode, your hosts discuss Gordon's thoughts on divination—or fortune-telling, as he preferred to call it... Click here to purchase tickets to the 2026 edition of the Lily Dale Symposium (July 23-25), organized by Shannon Taggart and closing this year with a live recording of Weird Studies. References Rune Soup Fortune’s Fools Oracle Deck Duns Scotus, Scottish priest Marshall Sahlins, The New Science of the Enchanted Universe Henri Bergson, Time and Free Will Ithell Colquhoun, Taro as Colour Lord Dunsany, The Gods of Pegana Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices