<p>&nbsp;Mark Carney promised <em>one Canadian economy</em>. Now, his signature bill is one step closer to law as Bill C-5 rocketed through parliament with some amendments. The changes haven't quelled concerns from Liberal MP Nate Erskine-Smith, who broke ranks in the final vote. Host Noor sits down with MP Erskine-Smith to talk about why he voted no, and what he really thinks of Carney’s CEO-style politics.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><br><p>And, you’ll hear concerns from the Assembly of First Nations National Chief Cindy Woodhouse Nepinak about the process and lack of consultation. Plus some regulatory mythbusting by BC professors, Jess Dempsey, and Rosemary Collard.</p><br><p>Host: Noor Azrieh</p><p>Credits: Aviva Lessard (Senior Producer), Sam Konnert (Producer), Noor Azrieh (Host/Producer), Caleb Thompson (Audio Editor and Technical Producer), Max Collins (Director of Audio) Jesse Brown (Editor), Tony Wang (Artwork)</p><br><p>Guests: Nate Erskine-Smith, Cindy Woodhouse Nepinak, Jess Dempsey, Rosemary Collard</p><br><p>Background reading:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bill-c-5-passes-1.7566780" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Liberals' major projects bill passes House of Commons with Conservative support</a> – CBC News</li><li><a href="https://www.nationalobserver.com/2025/06/20/news/bill-c-5-passes-house-commons-vote-after-accelerated-process" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bill C-5 passes the House of Commons vote after accelerated process</a> – Canada’s National Observer</li><li><a href="https://thelogic.co/news/as-parliament-rushes-to-support-bill-c-5-indigenous-groups-prepare-for-legal-fight/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">As Parliament rushes to support Bill C-5, Indigenous groups prepare for legal fight</a> – The Logic</li><li><a href="https://www.uncommons.ca/p/a-tale-of-two-bill-5s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A tale of two Bill 5s</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.extinctionparadox.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Extinction Paradox</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facetsjournal.com/doi/10.1139/facets-2024-0083" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Does regulation delay mines? A timeline and economic benefit audit of British Columbia mines</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Sponsors:&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://www.douglas.ca/canadaland/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Douglas</a> is giving our listeners a FREE Sleep Bundle with each mattress purchase. Get the sheets, pillows, mattress and pillow protectors FREE with your Douglas purchase today at <a href="http://douglas.ca/canadaland" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">douglas.ca/canadaland</a></p><br><p>If you value this podcast, <a href="https://canadalandnetwork.supercast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Support us</a>! You’ll get premium access to all our shows ad free, including early releases and bonus content. You’ll also get our exclusive newsletter, discounts on merch, tickets to our live and virtual events, and more than anything, you’ll be a part of the solution to Canada’s journalism crisis, you’ll be keeping our work free and accessible to everybody.&nbsp;</p><br><p>You can listen ad-free on Amazon Music—included with Prime.</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

The Backbench

CANADALAND

Meet the Liberal MP Who Went Against Carney (and Who Might Take Out Doug Ford)

JUN 24, 20256 MIN
The Backbench

Meet the Liberal MP Who Went Against Carney (and Who Might Take Out Doug Ford)

JUN 24, 20256 MIN

Description

<p>&nbsp;Mark Carney promised <em>one Canadian economy</em>. Now, his signature bill is one step closer to law as Bill C-5 rocketed through parliament with some amendments. The changes haven't quelled concerns from Liberal MP Nate Erskine-Smith, who broke ranks in the final vote. Host Noor sits down with MP Erskine-Smith to talk about why he voted no, and what he really thinks of Carney’s CEO-style politics.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><br><p>And, you’ll hear concerns from the Assembly of First Nations National Chief Cindy Woodhouse Nepinak about the process and lack of consultation. Plus some regulatory mythbusting by BC professors, Jess Dempsey, and Rosemary Collard.</p><br><p>Host: Noor Azrieh</p><p>Credits: Aviva Lessard (Senior Producer), Sam Konnert (Producer), Noor Azrieh (Host/Producer), Caleb Thompson (Audio Editor and Technical Producer), Max Collins (Director of Audio) Jesse Brown (Editor), Tony Wang (Artwork)</p><br><p>Guests: Nate Erskine-Smith, Cindy Woodhouse Nepinak, Jess Dempsey, Rosemary Collard</p><br><p>Background reading:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bill-c-5-passes-1.7566780" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Liberals' major projects bill passes House of Commons with Conservative support</a> – CBC News</li><li><a href="https://www.nationalobserver.com/2025/06/20/news/bill-c-5-passes-house-commons-vote-after-accelerated-process" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bill C-5 passes the House of Commons vote after accelerated process</a> – Canada’s National Observer</li><li><a href="https://thelogic.co/news/as-parliament-rushes-to-support-bill-c-5-indigenous-groups-prepare-for-legal-fight/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">As Parliament rushes to support Bill C-5, Indigenous groups prepare for legal fight</a> – The Logic</li><li><a href="https://www.uncommons.ca/p/a-tale-of-two-bill-5s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A tale of two Bill 5s</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href="https://www.extinctionparadox.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Extinction Paradox</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facetsjournal.com/doi/10.1139/facets-2024-0083" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Does regulation delay mines? A timeline and economic benefit audit of British Columbia mines</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Sponsors:&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://www.douglas.ca/canadaland/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Douglas</a> is giving our listeners a FREE Sleep Bundle with each mattress purchase. Get the sheets, pillows, mattress and pillow protectors FREE with your Douglas purchase today at <a href="http://douglas.ca/canadaland" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">douglas.ca/canadaland</a></p><br><p>If you value this podcast, <a href="https://canadalandnetwork.supercast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Support us</a>! You’ll get premium access to all our shows ad free, including early releases and bonus content. You’ll also get our exclusive newsletter, discounts on merch, tickets to our live and virtual events, and more than anything, you’ll be a part of the solution to Canada’s journalism crisis, you’ll be keeping our work free and accessible to everybody.&nbsp;</p><br><p>You can listen ad-free on Amazon Music—included with Prime.</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>