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Episode 65: Lahaina's Fire and the Future of Resilient Building in Hawaii
NOV 3, 202552 MIN
Episode 65: Lahaina's Fire and the Future of Resilient Building in Hawaii
NOV 3, 202552 MIN
Description
In early August 2023, Hawaii wildfires destroyed over 2,200 structures, caused an estimated $5.5 billion in damage, and most tragically claimed the lives of over 100 people. In this episode of the ICC Pulse Podcast, we gathered key experts to discuss the Lahaina fire and Hawaii wildfires, emphasizing building safety and codes — how they shaped the disaster, what they reveal about vulnerabilities, what could change going forward, and more. Guests on the show: Derek Alkonis, Senior Research Program Manager, Fire Safety Research Institute Dori Booth, State Fire Marshal, State of Hawaii Ka`āina Hull, Director of Planning, County of Kauai Justice Jones, Fire and Disaster Mitigation Program Manager, ICC Elizabeth Pickett, Co-Executive Director, Hawaii Wildfire Management Organization Links to related and/or referenced topics in this episode: ICC Fire and Disaster Mitigation webpage 2024 International Wildland-Urban Interface Code (IWUIC) Information on FEMA's post-disaster recovery resources for code officials Donate Funds – Maui City Council Fire Safety Research Institute Hawaii Wildfire Management Organization | Protect Hawaiʻi
![<description><div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">In early August 2023, Hawaii wildfires destroyed over 2</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">,</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">200 structures, caused an estimated</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">$5.5 billion</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">in damage, and most tragically claimed the lives of over 100 people.</span></span><span class= "EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">In this episode of the <a href= "https://www.iccsafe.org/about/periodicals-and-newsroom/icc-pulse-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ICC Pulse Podcast</a>,</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">we</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">gather</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">ed</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">key experts</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">to discuss the Lahaina fire</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">and Hawaii wildfires</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">, emphasizing building safety and codes — how they shaped the disaster, what they</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">reveal about vulnerabilities, what could change going forward</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">, and more.</span></span><span class="EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><strong><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">Guests on the show:</span><span class="EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335557856":16777215,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"> </span></strong></p> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="listitem" aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="3" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">Derek</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">Alkonis</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">,</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">Senior</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">Research Program Manager, Fire Safety Research Institute</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0"> </span></span><span class= "EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335557856":16777215,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="listitem" aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="3" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">Dori Booth, State Fire Marshal, State of Hawaii</span><span class= "EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335557856":16777215,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="listitem" aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="3" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW140174842 BCX0">Ka`āina</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">Hull, Director of Planning, County of</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">Kauai</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0"> </span></span><span class= "EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335557856":16777215,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="listitem" aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="3" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">Justice Jones, Fire and Disaster Mitigation Program Manager, ICC</span><span class="EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335557856":16777215,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="listitem" aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="3" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" data-aria-posinset="5" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">Elizabeth Pickett, Co-Executive Director, Hawaii Wildfire Management Organization</span><span class="EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335557856":16777215,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><strong><span class="TextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang= "EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">Links to related and</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">/or</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0">referenced topics in this episode:</span></span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0"> </span><span class= "EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335557856":16777215,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"> </span></strong></p> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="listitem" aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><a class="Hyperlink SCXW140174842 BCX0" href= "https://www.iccsafe.org/fdm/" target="_blank" rel= "noreferrer noopener"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">ICC Fire and Disaster Mitigation webpage</span></a><span class="EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335557856":16777215,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":279,"335559991":360}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="listitem" aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><a class="Hyperlink SCXW140174842 BCX0" href= "https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IWUIC2024V1.0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">2024 International Wildland-Urban Interface Code (IWUIC)</span></a><span class="EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335557856":16777215,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":279,"335559991":360}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="listitem" aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><a class="Hyperlink SCXW140174842 BCX0" href= "https://www.iccsafe.org/advocacy/drra-1206/" target="_blank" rel= "noreferrer noopener"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">Information on FEMA's post-disaster recovery resources for code officials</span></a><span class="EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335557856":16777215,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":279,"335559991":360}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="listitem" aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><a class="Hyperlink SCXW140174842 BCX0" href= "https://mauicounty.us/donate-funds/" target="_blank" rel= "noreferrer noopener"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">Donate Funds – Maui City Council</span></a><span class= "EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335557856":16777215,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":279,"335559991":360}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div 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"{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335557856":16777215,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":279,"335559991":360}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW140174842 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW140174842 BCX0" role="listitem" aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" data-aria-posinset="6" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW140174842 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><a class="Hyperlink SCXW140174842 BCX0" href= "https://www.hwmo.org/" target="_blank" rel= "noreferrer noopener"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">Hawaii Wildfire Management Organization | Protect Hawaiʻi</span></a><span class="EOP SCXW140174842 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335557856":16777215,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":279,"335559991":360}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div></description>](https://us-central1-podcastguru-217d6.cloudfunctions.net/gcf_get_image?image_url=https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts115/v4/8f/1b/95/8f1b956d-fbc4-fdf4-4add-98ad37b5ca1b/mza_15223285959565306541.jpg/600x600bb.jpg&width=300&height=300&api_key=xqFmUFX5BHLBTA)
