<p>This double episode tackles love in all its forms with <strong>Katherine Center</strong>’s <a href="https://substack.com/redirect/438abe1f-d6d3-4e3a-8074-b5557feed245?j=eyJ1IjoiODdsdGZ0In0.PlPdmuVBwu4R0mP5kgEpT950iKtzXR0cIP-cFFDz8eo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Shippers</em></a> and <strong>Lila Raicek</strong>’s <a href="https://substack.com/redirect/ec6c67d3-61c3-4270-9927-dec224431b49?j=eyJ1IjoiODdsdGZ0In0.PlPdmuVBwu4R0mP5kgEpT950iKtzXR0cIP-cFFDz8eo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Plunge</em></a>. Hear from NYT bestselling author Katherine Center about her writing process and why she likes to give away the (happy) ending from the start. Cry with playwright Lila Raicek as she shares the friend she lost and the dark times that inspired her debut novel.</p><p>** If you enjoy recommending things you love and even earning from it, you have to become a creator on ShopMy! You'll be able to see that your recommendations matter. Click my referral code <a href="https://shopmy.us/join/zibbyowens" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a> to learn more! ***</p><br><p>** Want another secret podcast? If you sign up for my Z.I.P. Membership program, you'll get access to an exclusive podcast called Zibby's Show Notes, the behind-the-scenes of everything! Head to zibbyowens.com/subscribe to sign up.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>