In this episode, Veronica and Chip delve into the complex topic of family estrangement and the concept of going no contact. They explore the importance of boundaries in relationships, the impact of emotional well-being on family dynamics, and the cultural implications of severing ties with kin. The conversation highlights the necessity of learning skills to navigate difficult relationships while emphasizing the value of connection and the potential dangers of labeling family members as toxic. Ultimately, they advocate for a balanced approach to family relationships, recognizing the challenges while promoting personal growth and understanding. To learn more, visit the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠show notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.