This Wreckage

<p>Sean and Varn are back to talk current events, discuss theory and gripe about everyone and everything. On the tumbrils this week: artificial intelligence, the DSA, sovereign debt, multipolarity and how <em>not</em> to debate with Colin Drumm online. In the second half we talk about 'The Mamdani Moment', Varn's recent ascension to Chief Fly-in-the-Ointment in the DSA, the pre-political theories of the ILC and how the ruling class are dragging us all into the hellfire.</p><p></p><p>For the full episode, <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/87664?view=expanded">and all past Divings into the Wreckage,</a> support this show at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.patreon.com/c/thiswreckage">http://patreon.com/thiswreckage</a></p><p></p><p>Song: Gary Numan - This Wreckage</p>

<p>We talk about Adrian's new Ill Will Editions essay <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://illwill.com/revolts-without-revolution">Revolts Without Revolution</a>, a development of the memetic theory from his previous essays on Gilet Jaunes and George Floyd for a year of coordinated youth revolts and right-populist power-grabs.</p><p>Memes With Force: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://illwill.com/print/memes-with-force">https://illwill.com/print/memes-with-force</a></p><p>Memes Without Ends: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://illwill.com/memes-without-end">https://illwill.com/memes-without-end</a></p><p>Maucio Lazzarato - The United States and Fascistic Capitalism: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://illwill.com/fascistic-capitalism">https://illwill.com/fascistic-capitalism</a></p><p>Nueva Icaria - New Fascisms and the Reconfiguration of Global Counterrevolution: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://illwill.com/new-fascisms">https://illwill.com/new-fascisms</a></p><p>Preorder Depose–the first publication from Ill Will Editions: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://store.illwilleditions.com/products/depose-luigi-mangione-and-the-right-to-health">https://store.illwilleditions.com/products/depose-luigi-mangione-and-the-right-to-health</a></p><p>Song: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGnh0LVTKkDk1QmLXcz6UQOv0JU5J-BFNSMSuGUr4JhmBBTQBZ2Ps01qLH11VE_aem_AEaQTFmGnxwfJgyfYYQa5A&amp;v=EPt997x9qJQ&amp;feature=youtu.be">Youthquake - Manuver</a></p>

<p>NEWS EP! We cover the true origins or the Warner Brothers buyout, Trump's new National Security manifesto, the death of the West, and say farewell to Asad Haider. </p><p></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.patreon.com/c/thiswreckage"><strong>Sign up on patreon to hear the fun half!!</strong></a><strong> in which we discuss Death by Lightning, a miniseries about James Garfield and American crankery: </strong><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.patreon.com/c/thiswreckage"><strong>http://patreon.com/c/thiswreckage</strong></a></p><p>Referenced articles:</p><p> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.endnotes.org.uk/palabre/angels-and-demons">https://www.endnotes.org.uk/palabre/angels-and-demons</a> </p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/08/world/europe/zelensky-ukraine-war-peace-talks-europe-london.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share">https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/08/world/europe/zelensky-ukraine-war-peace-talks-europe-london.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/06/world/europe/trump-europe-strategy-document.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share">https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/06/world/europe/trump-europe-strategy-document.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share</a> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.ft.com/content/953635f0-4b87-41a4-a087-e8b1d71470b6?accessToken=zwAGRXR0h59AkdOVNjXwS4dBpNOgh-ix1xRwtg.MEYCIQCiIhSoXOIILWLPg-7ZjoHpI708TFPiQa5dgUpQcYcNOAIhAIMOrTTL9rQQWQgwir0APRqS6mXhN5TCt2yC234GZ2rX&amp;sharetype=gift&amp;token=30118284-df0a-41b5-bea7-ddfbb92fc2e9">https://www.ft.com/content/953635f0-4b87-41a4-a087-e8b1d71470b6?accessToken=zwAGRXR0h59AkdOVNjXwS4dBpNOgh-ix1xRwtg.MEYCIQCiIhSoXOIILWLPg-7ZjoHpI708TFPiQa5dgUpQcYcNOAIhAIMOrTTL9rQQWQgwir0APRqS6mXhN5TCt2yC234GZ2rX&amp;sharetype=gift&amp;token=30118284-df0a-41b5-bea7-ddfbb92fc2e9</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/07/us/politics/biden-immigration-trump.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share">https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/07/us/politics/biden-immigration-trump.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share</a></p><p>Asad Haider's writing:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/3972-mistaking-identity-politics-a-conversation-with-asad-haider-part-i">https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/3972-mistaking-identity-politics-a-conversation-with-asad-haider-part-i</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://viewpointmag.com/author/asad-haider/">https://viewpointmag.com/author/asad-haider/</a></p><p>Our interview with Asad from 2020: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/36803245">https://www.patreon.com/posts/36803245</a> </p><p>Song: Justice - Civilization</p>

<p>Sean and Andy are joined by British-Nigerian writer and podcaster, <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://x.com/buffsoldier_96">Ralph Leonard</a>, to talk about identity, politics and the Anglo Ummah. We discuss the parlous state of the nationalist left, what a proletarian socialist politics might look like in the 21st century and what might possibly be conserved of the classical Marxist movement which died in the beginning of the last century. Along the way we bring up the morphing politics of identity, the uneasy cohabitation between left populism and Islamism in the UK, remigration as capitalist politics and how pre-politics might could get us out of this mess.</p><p><strong>This is the first half of a full length conversation you can access by becoming a supporter of our show at </strong><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.patreon.com/this"><strong>www.patreon.com/thiswreckage</strong></a></p><p><strong>Fall book promotion: </strong><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/fall-promotion-138957785"><strong>https://www.patreon.com/posts/fall-promotion-138957785</strong></a></p><p>Articles mentioned:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://buffsoldier-96.medium.com/can-israel-survive-for-100-years-8dbdd5bc9abf">https://buffsoldier-96.medium.com/can-israel-survive-for-100-years-8dbdd5bc9abf</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://unherd.com/2023/07/mcdonalds-made-me-a-marxist/">https://unherd.com/2023/07/mcdonalds-made-me-a-marxist/</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://unherd.com/newsroom/is-kemi-badenoch-downplaying-her-nigerian-identity-for-political-gain/">https://unherd.com/newsroom/is-kemi-badenoch-downplaying-her-nigerian-identity-for-political-gain/</a></p><p></p><p>Song: The Equals - Baby Come Back</p>

<p><strong>For the full episode (in audio only OR video) sign up at </strong><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.patreon.com/c/theantifada/home"><strong>http://patreon.com/c/thiswreckage</strong></a><strong>!</strong></p><p></p><p>&amp;y and <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://x.com/andersleehere">&amp;ers J. Lee </a>talk about Zohran's walkbacks, meeting with Trump, and <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://mishpacha.com/the-kingmaker-from-williamsburg/">relationship with the Satmar community</a>. Then we watch and comment on a few old Conan monologues and interviews with Marc Maron, Kevin Spacey, and Jay Leno.</p><p></p><p></p>