Joining Rick and Ben this week is journalist and author James Witts, who has just written the book, Dope: How the cheats stay one step ahead, and what's being done to stop them. We discuss the ongoing threat of doping in running, the measures being taken to stop it (and whether they're working), what the future of the sport looks like with gene therapy and AI aiding dopers, the Enhanced Games and much more . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices