<description>It's time to put Trey on the hot seat! Thomas takes off his producer hat and puts on the hosting fedora as he interviews Trey and his thesis partner, Oliver Rouch, about their thesis film "Dream Jobbers."

The film follows male and female professional wrestlers as they navigate the independent circuit in North Carolina. Trey and Oliver talk about some of the unexpected challenges about filming a non social justice issue film, while also taking the time to flex their (very small) muscles about other films featuring professional wrestlers.

Hosted by THIRD-year MFA students Trey Kalny and Thomas Espy (but sometimes only Thomas), "Deacs &amp; Docs" is the official #WFUDFPPC.</description>

It's time to put Trey on the hot seat! Thomas tak…

It's time to put Trey on the hot seat! Thomas takes off his producer hat and puts on the hosting fedora as he interviews Trey and his thesis partner, Oliver Rouch, about their thesis film "Dream Jobbers."

The film follows male and female professional wrestlers as they navigate the independent circuit in North Carolina. Trey and Oliver talk about some of the unexpected challenges about filming a non social justice issue film, while also taking the time to flex their (very small) muscles about other films featuring professional wrestlers.

Hosted by THIRD-year MFA students Trey Kalny and Thomas Espy (but sometimes only Thomas), "Deacs & Docs" is the official #WFUDFPPC.

S2E5 Dream Jobbers

<description>We have two very special guests in the studio for our fourth episode of Semester 2! Documentary Film Program Director Cara Pilson makes her debut alongside DFP alum, Diane Hodson.

In addition to her award-winning thesis film, "unmappable," Diane has worked on several podcasts, including "Missing Richard Simmons." We chat with her about her work, while giving Cara a ripe opportunity to engage in one of her favorite conversations: ethics in non-fiction storytelling.

Hosted by THIRD-year MFA students Trey Kalny and Thomas Espy, "Deacs &amp; Docs" is the official #WFUDFPPC.</description>

We have two very special guests in the studio for…

We have two very special guests in the studio for our fourth episode of Semester 2! Documentary Film Program Director Cara Pilson makes her debut alongside DFP alum, Diane Hodson.

In addition to her award-winning thesis film, "unmappable," Diane has worked on several podcasts, including "Missing Richard Simmons." We chat with her about her work, while giving Cara a ripe opportunity to engage in one of her favorite conversations: ethics in non-fiction storytelling.

Hosted by THIRD-year MFA students Trey Kalny and Thomas Espy, "Deacs & Docs" is the official #WFUDFPPC.

S2E4 Special Guest Diane Hodson

Meg Daniels and Manie Robinson swing by the studio to gives us an update on their thesis film, "Proper Pronouns." The film follows four transgender ministers in the state of North Carolina as they grapple with deep-rooted resentment while leading their congregations.

We also eulogize the 2018 Chicago Cubs (sorry, Peter), while Manie makes Trey remember the time the Saints beat the Vikings in the 2009 NFC Championship (like, get over it, dude.) And we put our guests and listeners to the test to see if they can determine which towns belong to North or South Carolina.

Hosted by THIRD-year MFA students Trey Kalny and Thomas Espy, "Deacs & Docs" is the official #WFUDFPPC.

Meg Daniels and Manie Robinson swing by the studi…

S2E3 Proper Pronouns

Thomas is pulling double duty for our second episode of Semester 2!

Thomas reunites with his thesis partner when Brad(ley) Dillard returns to the studio. The two chat about the process of making their film "Conservatory" which follows four African-American students as they go through their senior year at the University of North Carolina School of the Arts.

Brad chats about the opportunity to represent the DFP at the New Orleans Film Festival Pitch Competition, while Thomas deftly manages to wear countless hats. And the two show off a rather impressive knowledge of the differences between "Rent" and "Fame."

Hosted by THIRD-year MFA students Trey Kalny and Thomas Espy, "Deacs & Docs" is the official #WFUDFPPC.

Thomas is pulling double duty for our second epis…

S2E2 Conservatory

You may have thought we were cancelled, but Deacs & Docs is back with a vengeance! The Semester 2 premiere features faculty members Chris Zaluski, Peter Gilbert, and Sandra Dicskon talking about their upcoming short "Five Minutes," an animated piece detailing the ways regenerative medicine is used by the military.

We- well most of us (ahem, Thomas) talk about the best doc we saw over the summer before testing our intrepid faculty on just how well they know their students in the debut of "Thomas or Trey."

Hosted by THIRD-year MFA students Trey Kalny and Thomas Espy, "Deacs & Docs" is the official #WFUDFPPC.

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