Chris and David welcome back Adam McCrea from Judoscale, to discuss the uncertainty around Heroku after Salesforce’s announcement that it would stop taking new enterprise customers. Adam shares how the news landed in real time during a founder’s retreat, and the conversation expands into what Heroku’s apparent “maintenance mode” means for developers, pricing, autoscaling, platform alternatives, and the broader challenge of building durable developer businesses in the AI era. They also touch on Judoscale’s upcoming “platform tour” and the value of smaller Ruby conferences. Hit download now to hear more!  Sponsors:<a href='https://www.honeybadger.io/'>Honeybadger</a><a href='https://judoscale.com/'>Judoscale</a> Links:<a href='https://twitter.com/excid3?lang=en'>Chris Oliver X</a><a href='https://bsky.app/profile/andrewm.codes'>Andrew Mason Bluesky</a><a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidesmalehill/'>David Hill LinkedIn</a><a href='https://judoscale.com/friends/new?source=remote-ruby&amp;utm_source=remoteruby&amp;utm_medium=podcast'>Judoscale- Remote Ruby listener gift</a><a href='https://x.com/adamlogic'>Adam McCrea X</a><a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamlogic/'>Adam McCrea LinkedIn</a><a href='https://judoscale.com/'>Judoscale</a><a href='https://www.remoteruby.com/2260490/episodes/13760978-autoscaling-rails-with-adam-mccrea'>Remote Ruby-Episode 163: Autoscaling Rails with Adam McCrea</a><a href='https://judoscale.com/blog/heroku-whats-next'>Heroku: What’s Next by Jon Sully (Judoscale Blog)</a><a href='https://www.heroku.com/blog/an-update-on-heroku/'>An update on Heroku by Nitin T Bhat</a><a href='https://render.com/'>Render</a><a href='https://cloud.laravel.com/'>Laravel Cloud</a><a href='https://rbqconf.com/'>RBQ Conf, March 26-27, 2026, Austin, TX</a><a href='https://blueridgeruby.com/'>Blue Ridge Ruby, April 30-May 1, 2026, Asheville, NC</a><a href='https://rubyconf.org/'>RubyConf, July14-16, 2026, Las Vegas, NV</a><a href='https://www.rubyevents.org/events/rails-world-2026'>Rails World 2026, September 23-24, 2026, Austin, TX</a><a href='https://www.rubyevents.org/events'>Ruby Events 2026</a> <a target="_blank" href="https://www.honeybadger.io/?utm_source=remoteruby&amp;utm_medium=podcast">Honeybadger</a> Honeybadger is an application health monitoring tool built by developers for developers. <a target="_blank" href="https://judoscale.com/?utm_source=remoteruby&amp;utm_medium=podcast">Judoscale</a> Make your deployments bulletproof with autoscaling that just works. Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. <ul> <li><a href='https://twitter.com/excid3?lang=en'>Chris Oliver X/Twitter</a></li> <li><a href='https://twitter.com/andrewmcodes?lang=en'>Andrew Mason X/Twitter</a></li> <li><a href='https://twitter.com/jmcharnes?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor'>Jason Charnes X/Twitter</a></li> </ul>

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Chris and David welcome back Adam McCrea from Judoscale, to discuss the uncertainty around Heroku after Salesforce’s announcement that it would stop taking new enterprise customers. Adam shares how the news landed in real time during a founder’s retreat, and the conversation expands into what Heroku’s apparent “maintenance mode” means for developers, pricing, autoscaling, platform alternatives, and the broader challenge of building durable developer businesses in the AI era. They also touch o...

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Heroku, Hosting, and the AI Era

Heroku, Hosting, and the AI Era

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