The 80/20 Deal Structure: Why I Never Buy Businesses Outright | E363
MAR 26, 202640 MIN
The 80/20 Deal Structure: Why I Never Buy Businesses Outright | E363
MAR 26, 202640 MIN
Description
Council estate South London to 30 mergers and acquisitions. No capital, no plan, but always knew wealth was what he wanted. Lee Smith went from DJ to jewellers to law firms to web design and IT—then discovered mergers and acquisitions in 2014 and everything changed. Now he's building two sector groups to £10M in profit, buying businesses at 3-4x multiples and exiting at 7-10x, and he's got some contrarian views that'll make you rethink everything about UK business ownership.In this episode, Lee reveals why buying 100% of a business is almost always the worst deal structure, why you don't need to understand what a business does to own it successfully, and why by the end of this decade the most valuable asset in Britain will be an SME producing profits. He shares his ethical partnership structure that keeps founders and directors aligned, explains how he bought an HVAC company he barely understands and grew it while only being there one day per week, and why he thinks the UK government is waging war on business owners—making it harder to employ people, easier for rogue employees to sue, and creating a clear choice by 2030: own a business with options and spare cash, or be an employee struggling more than ever.What you'll learn:🏢 Why you don't need to understand a business to own it (just need right people in right seats)💰 How to structure deals that keep founders and key directors aligned (20% founder retention + director equity)📊 What to look for when buying: £2M+ revenue, second-tier management in place, profitability doesn't matter🎯 The buy-build-sell playbook: buy at 3-4x EBITDA, build to £10M+ profit, exit at 7-10x⚠️ Why the UK government is anti-business (more taxes, more regulation, easier to sue companies)Book recommendations:Who? - Geoff Smart & Randy Street - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Who-Method-Hiring-Geoff-Smart/dp/0345504194Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Think-Grow-Rich-Napoleon-Hill/dp/9388423526Die with Zero - Bill Perkins - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Die-Zero-Getting-Your-Money/dp/0358099765The Fourth Turning - William Strauss & Neil Howe - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464About the Guest:Lee Smith grew up on a council estate in South London with no capital behind him and no plan to wealth—but he always knew wealth was something he wanted to achieve. His career path was unconventional: DJ, jewellers, law firms, then starting his own web design and IT company. In 2014, he discovered mergers and acquisitions, which "completely flipped the switch" in his life. He's now completed 30 M&A transactions and is building two separate sector groups (HVAC/construction and renewable energy) to £10M in profit.His key message to business owners: the UK government is waging war on individuals through cost-of-living, energy costs, and employment regulations. By 2030, there will be a clear choice—either own a business and have options and spare cash, or be an employee struggling even more than now. His ideal scenario: buy more businesses, make all employees shareholders through EMI schemes, so when they exit, everyone gets a payday that gets them onto the wealth ladder.Connect with Lee Smith - https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeantonysmith/--------Sign up to receive our weekly Scale To Win newsletter:https://subscribe.monkhouseandcompany.comFollow Dominic on LinkedIn:https://linkedin.com/in/dominicmonkhouseChapters:00:00 Introduction02:03 Views on UK government's impact on business06:58 Why Lee chose to buy into HVAC sector08:44 Structuring deals with existing management in mind12:28 Challenges small businesses face in scaling and compliance14:36 Critique of UK government’s business policies20:02 Advice for first-time business buyers25:11 Offering employee share schemes to improve engagement31:27 Reflection on challenges like contracting with tier one customers35:27 Recommended books that influenced Lee’s outlook37:46 The Fourth Turning's impact on Lee's family planning