On today’s LawNext: we hand over the podcast to NotebookLM to discuss the state of law practice management technology.  If you haven’t heard of NotebookLM, it is a generative AI tool from Google that turns your documents into engaging audio discussions. Its output sounds a whole lot like, well, a podcast, with two hosts chatting it up about your documents.  To quote Google’s own description, “With one click, two AI hosts start up a lively “deep dive” discussion based on your sources. They summarize your material, make connections between topics, and banter back and forth.” So we decided to give it a try. Back in September, LawNext host Bob Ambrogi wrote a four-part series on his LawSites blog called, “The Shrinking Ownership of Law Practice Management Technology.” It was a deep dive into how ownership of law practice management software for solo and small law firms has been consolidated under just six major ownership groups.  We loaded the four parts of that series into NotebookLM and asked it to generate its audio overview. What you’ll hear today is the discussion it generated, followed by Bob’s thoughts on what it produced. The NotebookLM audio is about 15 minutes long, and Bob’s comments will come after that plays.  It is important to keep in mind that the audio generated by NotebookLM is not simply a summary. The two speakers do summarize key points from Bob’s articles, but they also add interpretations and perspectives that are nowhere to be found in the original source material.  Here are the articles on which the audio is based: <ul> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.lawnext.com/2024/09/the-shrinking-ownership-of-law-practice-management-technology-part-1-of-4-a-market-dominated-by-just-six-ownership-groups.html"> The shrinking ownership of law practice management technology (Part 1 of 4): A Market Dominated by Just Six Ownership Groups</a>.  </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.lawnext.com/2024/09/the-shrinking-ownership-of-law-practice-management-technology-part-2-of-4-a-scorecard-of-who-owns-what.html"> The shrinking ownership of law practice management technology (Part 2 of 4): A Scorecard of Who Owns What</a>. </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.lawnext.com/2024/09/the-shrinking-ownership-of-law-practice-management-technology-part-3-of-4-future-development-and-market-opportunities.html"> The shrinking ownership of law practice management technology (Part 3 of 4): Future Development and Market Opportunities</a>. </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.lawnext.com/2024/09/the-shrinking-ownership-of-law-practice-management-technology-part-4-of-4-wrapping-it-all-up.html"> The shrinking ownership of law practice management technology (Part 4 of 4): Wrapping It All Up</a>. </li> </ul>   Thank You To Our Sponsors This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out. <ul> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://joinparadigm.com/">Paradigm</a>, home to the practice management platforms <a href= "https://www.practicepanther.com/">PracticePanther</a>, <a href= "https://www.bill4time.com/">Bill4Time</a>, <a href= "https://meruscase.com/">MerusCase</a> and <a href= "https://www.lollylaw.com/">LollyLaw</a>; the e-payments platform <a href="https://headnote.com/">Headnote</a>; and the legal accounting software <a href= "https://trustbooks.com/">TrustBooks</a>. </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Littler-LawNext">Littler,</a> local everywhere.  </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Steno-LawNextPodcast">Steno</a>, reliable court reporting with a revolutionary approach </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/ShareFile-LNP-DEC30">ShareFile</a>, Securely send, store, and share files – plus discover document workflows designed to improve your client experience. </li> </ul>   If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

<description>&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;On today’s LawNext: we hand over the podcast to NotebookLM to discuss the state of law practice management technology. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;If you haven’t heard of NotebookLM, it is a generative AI tool from Google that turns your documents into engaging audio discussions. Its output sounds a whole lot like, well, a podcast, with two hosts chatting it up about your documents. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;To quote Google’s own description, “With one click, two AI hosts start up a lively “deep dive” discussion based on your sources. They summarize your material, make connections between topics, and banter back and forth.”&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;So we decided to give it a try.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;Back in September, LawNext host Bob Ambrogi wrote a four-part series on his LawSites blog called, “The Shrinking Ownership of Law Practice Management Technology.” It was a deep dive into how ownership of law practice management software for solo and small law firms has been consolidated under just six major ownership groups. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;We loaded the four parts of that series into NotebookLM and asked it to generate its audio overview. What you’ll hear today is the discussion it generated, followed by Bob’s thoughts on what it produced. The NotebookLM audio is about 15 minutes long, and Bob’s comments will come after that plays. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;It is important to keep in mind that the audio generated by NotebookLM is not simply a summary. The two speakers do summarize key points from Bob’s articles, but they also add interpretations and perspectives that are nowhere to be found in the original source material. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;Here are the articles on which the audio is based:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.lawnext.com/2024/09/the-shrinking-ownership-of-law-practice-management-technology-part-1-of-4-a-market-dominated-by-just-six-ownership-groups.html"&gt; The shrinking ownership of law practice management technology (Part 1 of 4): A Market Dominated by Just Six Ownership Groups&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.lawnext.com/2024/09/the-shrinking-ownership-of-law-practice-management-technology-part-2-of-4-a-scorecard-of-who-owns-what.html"&gt; The shrinking ownership of law practice management technology (Part 2 of 4): A Scorecard of Who Owns What&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.lawnext.com/2024/09/the-shrinking-ownership-of-law-practice-management-technology-part-3-of-4-future-development-and-market-opportunities.html"&gt; The shrinking ownership of law practice management technology (Part 3 of 4): Future Development and Market Opportunities&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.lawnext.com/2024/09/the-shrinking-ownership-of-law-practice-management-technology-part-4-of-4-wrapping-it-all-up.html"&gt; The shrinking ownership of law practice management technology (Part 4 of 4): Wrapping It All Up&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3 dir="ltr"&gt;Thank You To Our Sponsors&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://joinparadigm.com/"&gt;Paradigm&lt;/a&gt;, home to the practice management platforms &lt;a href= "https://www.practicepanther.com/"&gt;PracticePanther&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href= "https://www.bill4time.com/"&gt;Bill4Time&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href= "https://meruscase.com/"&gt;MerusCase&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href= "https://www.lollylaw.com/"&gt;LollyLaw&lt;/a&gt;; the e-payments platform &lt;a href="https://headnote.com/"&gt;Headnote&lt;/a&gt;; and the legal accounting software &lt;a href= "https://trustbooks.com/"&gt;TrustBooks&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Littler-LawNext"&gt;Littler,&lt;/a&gt; local everywhere. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Steno-LawNextPodcast"&gt;Steno&lt;/a&gt;, reliable court reporting with a revolutionary approach&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/ShareFile-LNP-DEC30"&gt;ShareFile&lt;/a&gt;, Securely send, store, and share files – plus discover document workflows designed to improve your client experience.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>

On today’s LawNext: we hand over the podcast to NotebookLM to discuss the state of law practice management technology.  If you haven’t heard of NotebookLM, it is a generative AI tool from Google that turns your documents into engaging audio...

Ep 272: In Which Gen AI Takes Over this Podcast to Discuss Law Practice Management Technology

You cannot have innovation without adoption. That was a theme I heard repeatedly when I attended the Knowledge Management & Innovation for Legal conference in New York City in October. Our guest today, <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-henry-17116b/">Paul Henry</a>, would take that a step further and say you do not really have adoption without engagement.  Henry is the founder and CEO of <a href= "https://www.ngageintelligence.com/">NGAGE Intelligence</a>, a platform that provides law firms with highly granular and comprehensive behavioral analytics to help them understand whether, how and by whom their communication, collaboration and AI tools are being used.   NGAGE was founded on the notion of employee engagement and how analytics can be used to measure and improve it. At the conference, LawNext host Bob Ambrogi sat down with Henry to learn more about Ngage and how the analytics it provides can drive adoption, engagement and governance.  A note that this was recorded live at the conference, as the morning keynote speech was being piped throughout the conference area, so I apologize for the background noise.   Thank You To Our Sponsors This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out. <ul> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://joinparadigm.com/">Paradigm</a>, home to the practice management platforms <a href= "https://www.practicepanther.com/">PracticePanther</a>, <a href= "https://www.bill4time.com/">Bill4Time</a>, <a href= "https://meruscase.com/">MerusCase</a> and <a href= "https://www.lollylaw.com/">LollyLaw</a>; the e-payments platform <a href="https://headnote.com/">Headnote</a>; and the legal accounting software <a href= "https://trustbooks.com/">TrustBooks</a>. </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Littler-LawNext">Littler,</a> local everywhere.  </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Steno-LawNextPodcast">Steno</a>, reliable court reporting with a revolutionary approach </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/ShareFile-LNP-DEC30">ShareFile</a>, Securely send, store, and share files – plus discover document workflows designed to improve your client experience. </li> </ul>   If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

<description>&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;You cannot have innovation without adoption. That was a theme I heard repeatedly when I attended the Knowledge Management &amp; Innovation for Legal conference in New York City in October. Our guest today, &lt;a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-henry-17116b/"&gt;Paul Henry&lt;/a&gt;, would take that a step further and say you do not really have adoption without engagement. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;Henry is the founder and CEO of &lt;a href= "https://www.ngageintelligence.com/"&gt;NGAGE Intelligence&lt;/a&gt;, a platform that provides law firms with highly granular and comprehensive behavioral analytics to help them understand whether, how and by whom their communication, collaboration and AI tools are being used.  &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;NGAGE was founded on the notion of employee engagement and how analytics can be used to measure and improve it. At the conference, LawNext host Bob Ambrogi sat down with Henry to learn more about Ngage and how the analytics it provides can drive adoption, engagement and governance. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;A note that this was recorded live at the conference, as the morning keynote speech was being piped throughout the conference area, so I apologize for the background noise.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3 dir="ltr"&gt;Thank You To Our Sponsors&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://joinparadigm.com/"&gt;Paradigm&lt;/a&gt;, home to the practice management platforms &lt;a href= "https://www.practicepanther.com/"&gt;PracticePanther&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href= "https://www.bill4time.com/"&gt;Bill4Time&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href= "https://meruscase.com/"&gt;MerusCase&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href= "https://www.lollylaw.com/"&gt;LollyLaw&lt;/a&gt;; the e-payments platform &lt;a href="https://headnote.com/"&gt;Headnote&lt;/a&gt;; and the legal accounting software &lt;a href= "https://trustbooks.com/"&gt;TrustBooks&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Littler-LawNext"&gt;Littler,&lt;/a&gt; local everywhere. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Steno-LawNextPodcast"&gt;Steno&lt;/a&gt;, reliable court reporting with a revolutionary approach&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/ShareFile-LNP-DEC30"&gt;ShareFile&lt;/a&gt;, Securely send, store, and share files – plus discover document workflows designed to improve your client experience.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>

You cannot have innovation without adoption. That was a theme I heard repeatedly when I attended the Knowledge Management & Innovation for Legal conference in New York City in October. Our guest today, , would take that a step further and say you...

Ep 271: NGAGE’s Paul Henry On How Law Firms Can Use Behavioral Analytics to Drive Tech Adoption

<a href= "https://www.everlaw.com/everlaw-for-good/">Everlaw for Good</a> is a program run by the e-discovery company <a href= "https://www.everlaw.com/">Everlaw</a>, through which it makes its software available at no cost to legal aid organizations, nonprofit organizations, and investigative journalists.  One beneficiary of that program is the <a href= "https://cja.org/">Center for Justice and Accountability</a>, a human rights nonprofit that works to seek justice on behalf of victims of atrocity crimes, including torture, genocide, and war crimes. At the recent Everlaw Summit, the CJA’s work using the Everlaw platform was honored with the Everlaw for Good award.  LawNext host Bob Ambrogi was at the summit, which was held in San Francisco in October, and he had the opportunity to sit down to record this conversation with two of the CJA’s lawyers, along with the director of the Everlaw for Good program. Today’s guests are: <ul> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://cja.org/who-we-are/staff/claret-vargas/">Claret Vargas</a>, senior staff attorney at CJA.  </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://cja.org/who-we-are/staff/daniel-mclaughlin/">Daniel McLaughlin</a>, senior staff attorney at CJA. </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannesprague/">Joanne Sprague</a>, director of Everlaw for Good.  </li> </ul> They discuss the Everlaw for Good program and the specific impact it has had on CJA’s work.    Thank You To Our Sponsors This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out. <ul> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://joinparadigm.com/">Paradigm</a>, home to the practice management platforms <a href= "https://www.practicepanther.com/">PracticePanther</a>, <a href= "https://www.bill4time.com/">Bill4Time</a>, <a href= "https://meruscase.com/">MerusCase</a> and <a href= "https://www.lollylaw.com/">LollyLaw</a>; the e-payments platform <a href="https://headnote.com/">Headnote</a>; and the legal accounting software <a href= "https://trustbooks.com/">TrustBooks</a>. </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Littler-LawNext">Littler,</a> local everywhere.  </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Steno-LawNextPodcast">Steno</a>, reliable court reporting with a revolutionary approach </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/ShareFile-LNP-DEC30">ShareFile</a>, Securely send, store, and share files – plus discover document workflows designed to improve your client experience. </li> </ul>   If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

<description>&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.everlaw.com/everlaw-for-good/"&gt;Everlaw for Good&lt;/a&gt; is a program run by the e-discovery company &lt;a href= "https://www.everlaw.com/"&gt;Everlaw&lt;/a&gt;, through which it makes its software available at no cost to legal aid organizations, nonprofit organizations, and investigative journalists. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;One beneficiary of that program is the &lt;a href= "https://cja.org/"&gt;Center for Justice and Accountability&lt;/a&gt;, a human rights nonprofit that works to seek justice on behalf of victims of atrocity crimes, including torture, genocide, and war crimes. At the recent Everlaw Summit, the CJA’s work using the Everlaw platform was honored with the Everlaw for Good award. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;LawNext host Bob Ambrogi was at the summit, which was held in San Francisco in October, and he had the opportunity to sit down to record this conversation with two of the CJA’s lawyers, along with the director of the Everlaw for Good program. Today’s guests are:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://cja.org/who-we-are/staff/claret-vargas/"&gt;Claret Vargas&lt;/a&gt;, senior staff attorney at CJA. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://cja.org/who-we-are/staff/daniel-mclaughlin/"&gt;Daniel McLaughlin&lt;/a&gt;, senior staff attorney at CJA.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannesprague/"&gt;Joanne Sprague&lt;/a&gt;, director of Everlaw for Good. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;They discuss the Everlaw for Good program and the specific impact it has had on CJA’s work. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3 dir="ltr"&gt;Thank You To Our Sponsors&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://joinparadigm.com/"&gt;Paradigm&lt;/a&gt;, home to the practice management platforms &lt;a href= "https://www.practicepanther.com/"&gt;PracticePanther&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href= "https://www.bill4time.com/"&gt;Bill4Time&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href= "https://meruscase.com/"&gt;MerusCase&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href= "https://www.lollylaw.com/"&gt;LollyLaw&lt;/a&gt;; the e-payments platform &lt;a href="https://headnote.com/"&gt;Headnote&lt;/a&gt;; and the legal accounting software &lt;a href= "https://trustbooks.com/"&gt;TrustBooks&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Littler-LawNext"&gt;Littler,&lt;/a&gt; local everywhere. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Steno-LawNextPodcast"&gt;Steno&lt;/a&gt;, reliable court reporting with a revolutionary approach&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/ShareFile-LNP-DEC30"&gt;ShareFile&lt;/a&gt;, Securely send, store, and share files – plus discover document workflows designed to improve your client experience.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>

is a program run by the e-discovery company , through which it makes its software available at no cost to legal aid organizations, nonprofit organizations, and investigative journalists.  One beneficiary of that program is the , a human rights...

Ep 270: How One Legal Tech Company Is Donating Its Software To Pursue Justice In Atrocity Crimes

In the field of legal knowledge management and innovation, Sally Gonzalez is both a legend and a trailblazer. Over the course of her 40-year career, she has worked for some of the world's largest law firms to develop and lead KM and strategic technology initiatives. She has overseen KM and information technology programs at such global firms as Norton Rose Fulbright, Dentons, Akin Gump, Covington & Burling, and Jones Day, and been a strategic consultant at major consulting firms including HBR, Navigant, PwC and, most recently, Fireman & Company,  Gonzalez surprised some of those who attended the Knowledge Management and Innovation for Legal Conference held in New York City in October, where she was the keynote speaker, when she announced her retirement there and was recognized by her peers for her decades of contributions to the legal industry. That made her keynote, in which she spoke about core principles for successful KM, her swan song, of sorts.  Following her keynote, LawNext host Bob Ambrogi, who was at the conference, sat down with Gonzalez to record this conversation about her thoughts on KM, innovation, AI, culture, change management, and much more.    Thank You To Our Sponsors This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out. <ul> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://joinparadigm.com/">Paradigm</a>, home to the practice management platforms <a href= "https://www.practicepanther.com/">PracticePanther</a>, <a href= "https://www.bill4time.com/">Bill4Time</a>, <a href= "https://meruscase.com/">MerusCase</a> and <a href= "https://www.lollylaw.com/">LollyLaw</a>; the e-payments platform <a href="https://headnote.com/">Headnote</a>; and the legal accounting software <a href= "https://trustbooks.com/">TrustBooks</a>. </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/briefpoint-lawnext-podcast">Briefpoint</a>, eliminating routine discovery response and request drafting tasks so you can focus on drafting what matters (or just make it home for dinner). </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Littler-LawNext">Littler,</a> local everywhere.  </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Steno-LawNextPodcast">Steno</a>, reliable court reporting with a revolutionary approach </li> </ul>   If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

<description>&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;In the field of legal knowledge management and innovation, Sally Gonzalez is both a legend and a trailblazer. Over the course of her 40-year career, she has worked for some of the world's largest law firms to develop and lead KM and strategic technology initiatives. She has overseen KM and information technology programs at such global firms as Norton Rose Fulbright, Dentons, Akin Gump, Covington &amp; Burling, and Jones Day, and been a strategic consultant at major consulting firms including HBR, Navigant, PwC and, most recently, Fireman &amp; Company, &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;Gonzalez surprised some of those who attended the Knowledge Management and Innovation for Legal Conference held in New York City in October, where she was the keynote speaker, when she announced her retirement there and was recognized by her peers for her decades of contributions to the legal industry. That made her keynote, in which she spoke about core principles for successful KM, her swan song, of sorts. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;Following her keynote, LawNext host Bob Ambrogi, who was at the conference, sat down with Gonzalez to record this conversation about her thoughts on KM, innovation, AI, culture, change management, and much more. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3 dir="ltr"&gt;Thank You To Our Sponsors&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://joinparadigm.com/"&gt;Paradigm&lt;/a&gt;, home to the practice management platforms &lt;a href= "https://www.practicepanther.com/"&gt;PracticePanther&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href= "https://www.bill4time.com/"&gt;Bill4Time&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href= "https://meruscase.com/"&gt;MerusCase&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href= "https://www.lollylaw.com/"&gt;LollyLaw&lt;/a&gt;; the e-payments platform &lt;a href="https://headnote.com/"&gt;Headnote&lt;/a&gt;; and the legal accounting software &lt;a href= "https://trustbooks.com/"&gt;TrustBooks&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/briefpoint-lawnext-podcast"&gt;Briefpoint&lt;/a&gt;, eliminating routine discovery response and request drafting tasks so you can focus on drafting what matters (or just make it home for dinner).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Littler-LawNext"&gt;Littler,&lt;/a&gt; local everywhere. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Steno-LawNextPodcast"&gt;Steno&lt;/a&gt;, reliable court reporting with a revolutionary approach&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>

In the field of legal knowledge management and innovation, Sally Gonzalez is both a legend and a trailblazer. Over the course of her 40-year career, she has worked for some of the world's largest law firms to develop and lead KM and strategic...

Ep 269: As She Retires From a Trailblazing Career in Legal KM and Innovation, Sally Gonzalez Shares Lessons Learned

Recently, the <a href= "https://www.everlaw.com/summit/">Everlaw Summit</a>, the annual customer conference of the e-discovery company <a href= "https://www.everlaw.com/">Everlaw</a>, convened in San Francisco. In his keynote address there, cofounder and CEO AJ Shankar announced the general availability, after a year of beta testing, of a suite of generative AI features for reviewing, coding and analyzing documents in discovery and litigation prep.  LawNext host Bob AmbrogiI was at the conference, and the next morning, he sat down with Shankar for this conversation about Everlaw’s development of these AI tools and Shankar’s views on how gen AI will impact legal professionals. As you’ll hear him say, he makes no bones about calling it a game changer.  With a doctorate in computer science from the University of California, Berkeley, Shankar founded Everlaw in 2011 as one of the earliest cloud-based e-discovery platforms. He has been on this podcast twice before: <ul> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.lawnext.com/2019/04/lawnext-episode-33-aj-shankar-founder-and-ceo-of-everlaw.html"> In April 2019</a>, where he discussed the company’s founding and early development. </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.lawnext.com/2021/11/on-lawnext-legal-techs-latest-unicorn-a-conversation-with-everlaw-founder-aj-shankar.html"> In November 2021</a>, just after Everlaw became one of the first legal tech companies to achieve unicorn status, or a valuation of over $1 billion.  </li> </ul>   Thank You To Our Sponsors This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out. <ul> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://joinparadigm.com/">Paradigm</a>, home to the practice management platforms <a href= "https://www.practicepanther.com/">PracticePanther</a>, <a href= "https://www.bill4time.com/">Bill4Time</a>, <a href= "https://meruscase.com/">MerusCase</a> and <a href= "https://www.lollylaw.com/">LollyLaw</a>; the e-payments platform <a href="https://headnote.com/">Headnote</a>; and the legal accounting software <a href= "https://trustbooks.com/">TrustBooks</a>. </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/briefpoint-lawnext-podcast">Briefpoint</a>, eliminating routine discovery response and request drafting tasks so you can focus on drafting what matters (or just make it home for dinner). </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Littler-LawNext">Littler,</a> local everywhere.  </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"><a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Steno-LawNextPodcast">Steno</a>, reliable court reporting with a revolutionary approach</li> </ul>   If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

<description>&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;Recently, the &lt;a href= "https://www.everlaw.com/summit/"&gt;Everlaw Summit&lt;/a&gt;, the annual customer conference of the e-discovery company &lt;a href= "https://www.everlaw.com/"&gt;Everlaw&lt;/a&gt;, convened in San Francisco. In his keynote address there, cofounder and CEO AJ Shankar announced the general availability, after a year of beta testing, of a suite of generative AI features for reviewing, coding and analyzing documents in discovery and litigation prep. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;LawNext host Bob AmbrogiI was at the conference, and the next morning, he sat down with Shankar for this conversation about Everlaw’s development of these AI tools and Shankar’s views on how gen AI will impact legal professionals. As you’ll hear him say, he makes no bones about calling it a game changer. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;With a doctorate in computer science from the University of California, Berkeley, Shankar founded Everlaw in 2011 as one of the earliest cloud-based e-discovery platforms. He has been on this podcast twice before:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.lawnext.com/2019/04/lawnext-episode-33-aj-shankar-founder-and-ceo-of-everlaw.html"&gt; In April 2019&lt;/a&gt;, where he discussed the company’s founding and early development.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.lawnext.com/2021/11/on-lawnext-legal-techs-latest-unicorn-a-conversation-with-everlaw-founder-aj-shankar.html"&gt; In November 2021&lt;/a&gt;, just after Everlaw became one of the first legal tech companies to achieve unicorn status, or a valuation of over $1 billion. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;h3 dir="ltr"&gt; &lt;/h3&gt; &lt;h3 dir="ltr"&gt;Thank You To Our Sponsors&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://joinparadigm.com/"&gt;Paradigm&lt;/a&gt;, home to the practice management platforms &lt;a href= "https://www.practicepanther.com/"&gt;PracticePanther&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href= "https://www.bill4time.com/"&gt;Bill4Time&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href= "https://meruscase.com/"&gt;MerusCase&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href= "https://www.lollylaw.com/"&gt;LollyLaw&lt;/a&gt;; the e-payments platform &lt;a href="https://headnote.com/"&gt;Headnote&lt;/a&gt;; and the legal accounting software &lt;a href= "https://trustbooks.com/"&gt;TrustBooks&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/briefpoint-lawnext-podcast"&gt;Briefpoint&lt;/a&gt;, eliminating routine discovery response and request drafting tasks so you can focus on drafting what matters (or just make it home for dinner).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" role="presentation"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Littler-LawNext"&gt;Littler,&lt;/a&gt; local everywhere. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://rebrand.ly/Steno-LawNextPodcast"&gt;Steno&lt;/a&gt;, reliable court reporting with a revolutionary approach&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>

Recently, the , the annual customer conference of the e-discovery company , convened in San Francisco. In his keynote address there, cofounder and CEO AJ Shankar announced the general availability, after a year of beta testing, of a suite of...

Ep 268: How Gen AI Can Be A Game-Changer for Discovery and Litigation, with Everlaw CEO AJ Shankar

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