Fixing Healthcare Podcast
Fixing Healthcare Podcast

Fixing Healthcare Podcast

Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr

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“A podcast with a plan to fix healthcare” featuring Dr. Robert Pearl, Jeremy Corr and Guests

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FHC #199: Revisiting ‘The road to AI-empowered healthcare’ from ChatGPT, MD
DEC 24, 2025
FHC #199: Revisiting ‘The road to AI-empowered healthcare’ from ChatGPT, MD
<p>As 2025 comes to a close, we’re flashing back to one of the year’s most listened-to episodes of <em>Fixing Healthcare</em>. This week, a special reading from Dr. Robert Pearl’s bestselling book “<a href="https://www.amazon.com/ChatGPT-MD-AI-Empowered-Patients-American/dp/B0CZTGPQC6/">ChatGPT, MD: How AI-Empowered Patients &amp; Doctors Can Take Back Control of American Medicine</a>.”</p> <p>This encore episode includes audio from Chapter 11, titled “The Road to AI-Empowered Healthcare,” followed by Chapter 11.5, a bold and thought-provoking response written by ChatGPT itself. Together, these chapters offer a vision of the future that, as Jeremy Corr notes, is “analogous to looking at a baby and trying to describe the adult who will follow.”</p> <p>Looking back, it’s striking how prescient both the human author and large language model turned out to be. Their commentary on the economic, political and cultural roadblocks to AI adoption feels more timely than ever, especially amid today’s headlines.</p> <p>In Chapter 11, Pearl lays out the promise of Healthcare 4.0, a future in which generative AI empowers patients and doctors alike to reduce inefficiencies, improve care and reclaim the human side of medicine. Chapter 11.5, penned by ChatGPT, offers a clear-eyed critique, cautioning against overreliance on tech and warning that change requires more than just innovation. It demands leadership.</p> <p>This flashback offers listeners a rare opportunity to hear a dialogue (human and machine) on what it will take to transform American medicine.</p> <p><strong>HELPFUL LINKS</strong></p> <ul> <li>ChatGPT, MD: How AI-Empowered Patients &amp; Doctors Can Take Back Control of American Medicine (<a href="https://www.amazon.com/ChatGPT-MD-AI-Empowered-Patients-American/dp/B0CZTGPQC6/">Amazon</a>)</li> <li>A list of Malcolm Gladwell’s 25 book recommendations (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/readswithravi/p/DBu15Weu8z9/?img_index=1">link</a>)</li> <li>Robert Pearl’s Monthly Musings on American Healthcare newsletter (<a href="https://robertpearlmd.com/newsletter/">link</a>)</li> </ul> <p style="text-align: center;">* * *</p> <p><em>Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of </em><a href="https://fixinghealthcarepodcast.blubrry.net/meet-the-hosts/"><strong><em>Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr</em></strong></a><em>.</em> <em>Subscribe to the show via Apple Podcasts or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on </em><a href="https://twitter.com/FixingHCPodcast"><strong><em>Twitter</em></strong></a><em> and </em><a href="https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fcompany%2Ffixing-health-care-with-dr-robert-pearl-and-jeremy-corr%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf06b53b156624519f8f308d68bd3807c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636850137835478638&amp;sdata=ntOxOT%2BjI%2FCjpZkjaCgp4%2BO9k0XJMy17PaXWSG0kQ%2F8%3D&amp;reserved=0"><strong><em>LinkedIn</em></strong></a><em>.</em></p> <p>The post <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com/2025/12/23/fhc-199-chatgpt-md/">FHC #199: Revisiting ‘The road to AI-empowered healthcare’ from ChatGPT, MD</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com">Fixing Healthcare</a>.</p>
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FHC #198: The surprising science of gratitude & the cost of conformity
DEC 17, 2025
FHC #198: The surprising science of gratitude & the cost of conformity
<p>After the Thanksgiving holiday, Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr sit down for an “Unfiltered” discussion about gratitude with cardiologist and burnout expert Dr. Jonathan Fisher.</p> <p>While the discussion begins with an exploration of the science and value of gratitude, the episode then expands into an analysis of cultural trends in medicine, mental health, and the tension between individual autonomy and collective belonging. With insights drawn from emotion research, Jonathan’s own experience, and even sci-fi television, this episode touches on everything from evolutionary psychology to electronic health records — and from <em>Lord of the Rings</em> to generative AI.</p> <p>Some of the key ideas discussed:</p> <ul> <li><strong>Gratitude is a mindset, a personality trait and, most importantly, a practice.</strong> Drawiong on research from Dr. Barbara Fredrickson and others to explain how gratitude triggers upward emotional spirals, helping people tap into optimism, empathy and self-trust.</li> <li><strong>When life is falling apart, gratitude alone isn’t the answer.</strong> In moments of crisis, trying to force a feeling of gratitude can backfire. Instead, we should begin by choosing where to place our attention, cultivating stillness and gradually train our minds to experience positive emotions again.</li> <li><strong>The real enemy of gratitude might be distraction.</strong> With much of our attention hijacked by devices, media and negativity bias, Americans today often lack the sustained focus required to feel or express authentic gratitude.</li> <li><strong>There’s wisdom (and warning) in a ‘hive mind.’</strong> The group discusses the Apple TV series <em>Pluribus</em>, in which a virus links humans into a hive mind of total empathy and consensus. While peaceful, the world loses all individuality, sparking a conversation about the tension between belonging and autonomy in medicine, society and self.</li> <li><strong>A lesson from Samwise Gamgee:</strong> In a heartfelt final segment, Jeremy draws on <em>Lord of the Rings</em> to reflect on the importance of standing by loved ones in dark times. Jonathan responds with insight into isolation, empathy and the power of human connection — even when people seem lost.</li> </ul> <p>For more unfiltered conversation, listen to the full episode and explore these related resources:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Just-One-Heart-Cardiologists-Happiness/dp/1636760007/"><strong>‘Just One Heart’</strong></a> (Jonathan Fisher’s newest book)</li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/ChatGPT-MD-AI-Empowered-Patients-American/dp/B0D755NHXJ/"><strong>‘ChatGPT, MD’</strong></a> (Robert Pearl’s newest book)</li> <li><a href="https://robertpearlmd.com/newsletter/"><strong>Monthly Musings on American Healthcare</strong></a> (Robert Pearl’s newsletter)</li> </ul> <p style="text-align: center;">* * *</p> <p><em>Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of </em><a href="https://fixinghealthcarepodcast.blubrry.net/meet-the-hosts/"><strong><em>Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr</em></strong></a><em>.</em> <em>Subscribe to the show via Apple Podcasts or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on </em><a href="https://twitter.com/FixingHCPodcast"><strong><em>Twitter</em></strong></a><em> and </em><a href="https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fcompany%2Ffixing-health-care-with-dr-robert-pearl-and-jeremy-corr%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf06b53b156624519f8f308d68bd3807c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636850137835478638&amp;sdata=ntOxOT%2BjI%2FCjpZkjaCgp4%2BO9k0XJMy17PaXWSG0kQ%2F8%3D&amp;reserved=0"><strong><em>LinkedIn</em></strong></a><em>.</em></p> <p>The post <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com/2025/12/16/fhc-198-unfiltered/">FHC #198: The surprising science of gratitude &#038; the cost of conformity</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com">Fixing Healthcare</a>.</p>
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MTT #101: From measles outbreaks to GLP-1 hype, the data every patient should know
DEC 10, 2025
MTT #101: From measles outbreaks to GLP-1 hype, the data every patient should know
<p>In this week’s episode of <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com/category/coronavirus/"><strong><em>Medicine: The Truth</em></strong></a>, hosts Jeremy Corr and Dr. Robert Pearl examine a wide range of stories shaping American health. From new research on the lifesaving effects of health insurance to troubling vaccine policy changes in Washington, this episode offers an objective and insightful look at what’s working, what’s failing and what lies ahead.</p> <p>The show opens with a study that functions as a natural experiment on health coverage. When the IRS sent letters warning uninsured Americans about Affordable Care Act penalties, researchers found a striking result: those who signed up for insurance had significantly lower mortality over the next two years. For Dr. Pearl, the takeaway is clear. As political battles over insurance subsidies begin, the stakes are measured in lives saved and lives lost.</p> <p>From there, the hosts turn to the second round of Medicare drug price negotiations under the Inflation Reduction Act. Cuts as large as 85% will save billions of dollars, but Pearl warns that negotiating prices alone cannot fix America’s drug-pricing problem. The root issue, he notes, is the ability of manufacturers to extend monopolies for years through patent thickets, evergreening and litigation strategies that delay competition. Until those practices change, the United States will continue paying far more than any other nation.</p> <p>Here are more pressing stories from this month’s episode of <em>Medicine: The Truth</em>:</p> <ul> <li><strong>Expiring ACA subsidies</strong>: Enhanced marketplace subsidies for 24 million Americans are scheduled to sunset, threatening large premium hikes.</li> <li><strong>Private insurance costs</strong>: Covering a family of four now averages $27,000 per year. Employers may shift even more of the burden onto employees.</li> <li><strong>U.S. health spending vs peer nations</strong>: America spends nearly $14,000 per person on healthcare, far above any comparable nation, yet underinvests in preventing and managing chronic disease complications.</li> <li><strong>Measles resurgence</strong>: Falling vaccination rates and permissive school exemptions have made measles endemic again, with outbreaks in multiple states.</li> <li><strong>Biosimilars and insulin pricing</strong>: The FDA plans to streamline biosimilar approvals by focusing on molecular similarity rather than repeated clinical trials.</li> <li><strong>COVID infections during pregnancy</strong>: A Massachusetts study of nearly 18,000 births found higher rates of neurodevelopmental diagnoses in children whose mothers had COVID while pregnant.</li> <li><strong>Social media and mental health</strong>: In a small study, young adults who reduced daily social media use from two hours to 30 minutes saw sharp drops in anxiety and depression.</li> <li><strong>Obesity trends and GLP-1s</strong>: New Gallup data show adult obesity declining slightly from 40% to 37% since 2022, with the largest gains among women ages 40 to 64 (a popular demographic for drugs like Ozempic).</li> <li><strong>Estrogen therapy reconsidered</strong>: The FDA has removed its black box warning from estrogen-containing products after new evidence showed substantial cardiovascular, bone and cognitive benefits when started near menopause.</li> </ul> <p>As the episode continues, Dr. Pearl highlights fascinating findings on peanut allergies and preterm birth disparities, looks at the likelihood of a severe flu season with the new H3N2 strain and a stern warning about the politicization of vaccine decisions.</p> <p style="text-align: center;">* * *</p> <p>Dr. Robert Pearl is the author of the new book “<a href="https://robertpearlmd.com/chatgptmd/"><strong>ChatGPT, MD: How AI-Empowered Patients &amp; Doctors Can Take Back Control of American Medicine</strong></a>” about the impact of AI on the future of medicine. All profits from the book go to Doctors Without Borders.</p> <p><em>Fixing Healthcare</em> is a co-production of <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com/meet-the-hosts/"><strong>Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr</strong></a>. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on <a href="https://twitter.com/FixingHCPodcast"><strong>Twitter</strong></a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/11786792/admin/"><strong>LinkedIn</strong></a></p> <p>The post <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com/2025/12/10/mtt-101-from-measles-outbreaks-to-glp-1-hype-the-data-every-patient-should-know/">MTT #101: From measles outbreaks to GLP-1 hype, the data every patient should know</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com">Fixing Healthcare</a>.</p>
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FHC #197: Artificial wombs & medical tourism – Draper siblings on healthcare’s next wave
DEC 2, 2025
FHC #197: Artificial wombs & medical tourism – Draper siblings on healthcare’s next wave
<p>The Draper name is synonymous with Silicon Valley risk-taking. For decades, venture capitalist Tim Draper made bold bets on breakthrough technologies long before they went mainstream (see: Bitcoin). Today, two members of the next generation — siblings Jesse and Adam Draper — are directing that same appetite for innovation toward one of America’s most troubled industries: healthcare.</p> <p>Jesse, founding partner at Halogen Ventures, focuses on the “future of family,” backing companies that support women, parents and caregivers (nurses, in particular). Adam, founder of Boost VC, invests in frontier breakthroughs and “sovereign health” technologies with outsized potential. Together, they spend their days reviewing hundreds of pitches from entrepreneurs trying to solve real-world problems. And in this episode, they share what they believe patients and consumers are seeking most.</p> <p>This is <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com/">Season 11 of <em>Fixing Healthcare</em></a>, which is dedicated to elevating voices with large public followings: people who, through their work, hear directly from communities, consumers and healthcare professionals. Neither Draper sibling is a healthcare insider. But both bring a candid, outside-in perspective shaped by global innovation, millennial tech culture and thousands of conversations with founders.</p> <p>Across the interview, the siblings highlight what they believe entrepreneurs are betting on: globalized innovation, new regulatory models and technologies that bypass traditional bottlenecks. Adam points to places like Prospera, a special economic zone in Honduras where companies develop treatments they can’t test in the U.S., while Jesse cites early-stage breakthroughs like Kangaroo’s artificial womb and tools that help families piece together trustworthy scientific evidence. Both describe a rising pattern of medical tourism driven by patients who feel the U.S. system is too slow, too fragmented and too expensive.</p> <p>Jesse also delivers the episode’s most memorable moment, describing ChatGPT as a “best friend” she consults for everything from parenting decisions to symptom interpretation. Her approach — asking AI to cite real studies and synthesize global data — reflects a generational shift in how people gather information long before seeing a doctor.</p> <p>In his closing remarks, Dr. Robert Pearl praises their patient-centered instincts while adding the guardrails often missing from Silicon Valley conversations. Innovation can save lives, he notes, but only when safety and cost stay in balance. Excess regulation slows progress, yet unchecked enthusiasm fuels hype and high-priced products that add little value.</p> <p>The central challenge, he argues, is building a healthcare system bold enough to welcome breakthrough ideas and disciplined enough to ensure they improve outcomes and lower costs, not just generate revenue.</p> <p><strong>Helpful links</strong></p> <ul> <li>“<a href="https://engineerine.com/japans-artificial-womb-breakthrough/">Japan has created the first artificial womb</a>” (Engineerine)</li> <li><a href="https://europeans24.com/2025/04/the-rise-and-reckoning-of-prospera-a-libertarian-experiment-in-honduras/">Prospera, Roatán ZEDE</a> (background and news)</li> <li>“<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertpearl/2023/04/10/outdated-thinking-by-healthcare-regulators-will-cost-american-lives/">Healthcare Regulators’ Outdated Thinking Will Cost American Lives</a>” (Forbes)</li> <li>“<a href="https://www.amazon.com/ChatGPT-MD-AI-Empowered-Patients-American-ebook/dp/B0CWCV9DVZ">ChatGPT, MD: How AI-Empowered Doctors and Patients Can Take Back Control of American Medicine</a>” (Pearl’s newest book)</li> </ul> <p style="text-align: center;">* * *</p> <p><em>Fixing Healthcare</em> is a co-production of <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com/meet-the-hosts/"><strong>Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr</strong></a>. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on <a href="https://twitter.com/FixingHCPodcast"><strong>Twitter</strong></a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/11786792/admin/"><strong>LinkedIn</strong></a>.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com/2025/12/02/fhc-197-drapers/">FHC #197: Artificial wombs &#038; medical tourism – Draper siblings on healthcare&#8217;s next wave</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com">Fixing Healthcare</a>.</p>
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FHC #196: Revisiting Thanksgiving 2020 at Covid’s peak
NOV 26, 2025
FHC #196: Revisiting Thanksgiving 2020 at Covid’s peak
<p>For this Thanksgiving week, we’re revisiting an important and emotionally charged episode from the first season of “Medicine: The Truth.” <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">=</span> When this episode debuted in 2020, the podcast was called “Coronavirus: The Truth,” which began when readers of Dr. Robert Pearl’s newsletter, “Monthly Musings on American Healthcare,” started asking for much-needed facts and context surrounding the pandemic.</p> <p>It was a moment hard to fathom now. Covid cases were climbing fast, the nation was exhausted and vaccines weren’t yet available. Fear and frustration were everywhere. Five years later, with vaccines protecting all but the most vulnerable, it’s worth remembering just how uncertain and divisive the world felt heading into those holidays.</p> <p>A big question people wanted answered was whether they should change their Thanksgiving plans. Dr. Anthony Fauci had urged Americans to avoid big gatherings. The reaction was immediate and intense. Polls showed three in four people were less excited about the holidays than the year before. Families were fighting over safety. Many felt hopeless and isolated. Against that backdrop, listeners asked the question weighing on millions: Should we gather at all?</p> <p>In this rerun, Dr. Robert Pearl revisits the facts that mattered most at the time: why drug makers were pausing some vaccine and treatment trials, what was happening on college campuses and why premature births had unexpectedly declined during lockdowns. He explains why he expected 500,000 Covid deaths, a number that shocked listeners in 2020 but ultimately proved accurate (by half).</p> <p>The episode also dives into deeper issues that shaped the national mood. Most of all, it captures the anger and divisiveness that blanketed the country. A tension that continues today.</p> <p>There is much our nation can learn today from the experiences of five years ago. This Thanksgiving rerun offers a powerful reminder of where we were and how far we’ve come.</p> <p style="text-align: center;">* * *</p> <p>Dr. Robert Pearl is the author of the new book “<a href="https://robertpearlmd.com/chatgptmd/">ChatGPT, MD: How AI-Empowered Patients &amp; Doctors Can Take Back Control of American Medicine</a>” about the impact of AI on the future of medicine. All profits from the book go to Doctors Without Borders.</p> <p><em>Fixing Healthcare</em> is a co-production of <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com/meet-the-hosts/"><strong>Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr</strong></a>. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on <a href="https://twitter.com/FixingHCPodcast"><strong>Twitter</strong></a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/11786792/admin/"><strong>LinkedIn</strong></a></p> <p>The post <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com/2025/11/25/fhc-196-revisiting-thanksgiving-2020/">FHC #196: Revisiting Thanksgiving 2020 at Covid’s peak</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.fixinghealthcarepodcast.com">Fixing Healthcare</a>.</p>
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32 MIN