The Pomp Podcast
Anthony Pompliano
Recent Episodes
Seamus Rocca is the CEO of Xapo Bank. In this conversation, we dig into the real-world data behind Bitcoin adoption — why it looks very different from the popular narratives, who is actually using bitcoin, which geographies are driving growth, and how ETFs and corporate treasuries are reshaping demand. He also shares the surprising areas where bitcoin products may take off next.
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Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.
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Timestamps:
0:00 — Intro
2:04 — Why older people are now adopting bitcoin
6:58 — Why bitcoin adoption differs across regions
11:02 — What is the Xapo Vault & how does the security work?
14:55 — Have Bitcoin ETFs helped or hurt Xapo?
17:40 — The overlooked impact of Wences Casares
20:15 — Bitcoin treasury companies & new financial engineering
23:16 — What Xapo must do to win in 2026
26:27 — What’s the next big bitcoin product?
Darius Dale is the Founder & CEO of 42 Macro. In this conversation, we break down the growing divisions inside the Federal Reserve, the real odds of a December rate cut, and who may lead the Fed next. Darius explains how Fed policy is moving asset prices in every direction and why markets are pricing something very different from what the Fed is saying.
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Timestamps:
0:00 – Intro
1:28 – Why the Federal Reserve is deeply divided
6:18 – Structural changes reshaping the US economy
9:40 – Will the market force the Fed to cut rates?
13:17 – The K-shaped economy: who’s in recession?
19:29 – Markets at risk: positioning signals flashing red
22:31 – What the KISS model says about bitcoin
Jeff Park is the Partner & Chief Investment Officer at ProCap BTC. In this conversation, we break down the latest FUD around Strategy and Tether — what’s real, what’s noise, and why these narratives keep coming back. Jeff also explains why crypto sentiment feels so beaten down, what’s actually driving price action, and how to think about the current liquidity backdrop. We wrap with why QT is effectively over, QE is creeping back, and what that means for bitcoin going forward.
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Timestamps:
0:00 – Intro
1:54 – Why crypto sentiment feels so bad right now
7:21 – Bitcoin vs altcoins: supply, leverage & liquidations
9:33 – Correlation, institutions & the 4-year cycle
14:41 – How to evaluate Strategy right now & should they sell bitcoin?
26:26 – What’s really going on with Tether?
32:33 – QT is over, QE is back & what that means moving forward
Anthony and John Pompliano break down the chaos inside today’s markets — from Bitcoin’s pullback to what’s really happening with the ETFs. We dig into why Vanguard suddenly capitulated, how a Trump-appointed Fed chair could reshape the entire macro landscape, and why political goggles are destroying people’s ability to think clearly about money. Plus, we unpack Michael and Susan Dell’s massive $6.25 billion donation to jump-start investing accounts for 25 million American kids — and what it means for the next generation of wealth-building.
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Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.
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Timestamps:
0:00 – Intro
1:29 – Bitcoin’s price drop & volatility
10:12 – ETF vs spot bitcoin & leverage warnings
16:40 – Vanguard + institutions opening access to Bitcoin ETFs
21:39 – Trump’s Fed pick & Jerome Powell legacy
25:56 – Political goggles: data, bias & media narratives
33:45 – Doctors using ChatGPT & the future of expertise
36:38 – Michael & Susan Dell’s $6.25B Invest America
Natalie Brunell is one of the leading voices in bitcoin, widely respected for helping millions understand the asset and the broader macro landscape. In this conversation, we break down why Bitcoin’s price has stalled, how it stacks up against gold, the biggest misconceptions critics still get wrong, stablecoins, Wall Street’s growing role, and whether Satoshi’s identity even matters. Natalie also shares insights from her book Bitcoin Is For Everyone and why she believes bitcoin’s long-term outlook remains as strong as ever.
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DeFi Development Corp. (Nasdaq: DFDV) is pioneering a new category in crypto investing with the first Solana-focused Digital Asset Treasury. DFDV offers public market exposure to Solana’s growth, yield, and onchain innovation, offering investors a leveraged way to participate in a trillion-dollar opportunity. Learn more about why Solana and why DFDV at SolanaTo10K.com.
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Timestamps:
0:00 – Intro
2:09 – Inflation & the U.S. affordability crisis
5:12 – Bitcoin vs. Gold
6:27 – Wall Street’s role in bitcoin and nation-state adoption
10:59 – Bitcoin as payments vs. store of value
12:56 – Stablecoins relationship to bitcoin
16:52 – Censorship, de-banking & financial freedom
21:16 – Banks & bitcoin reserves
22:42 – Media coverage of bitcoin and how to fix broken incentives
27:36 – “Bitcoin Is For Everyone”
33:20 – How to measure inflation
35:47 – The money printer mountain
37:26 – Who is Satoshi? Does it matter?
38:45 – Selling the book and closing remarks